[GeoStL] [Fwd: [Fwd: [chicago_geocachers] Digest Number 212]]

Glad to see the newsgroup back in business.

I tried to send a congrats to K-TEAM yesterday,
but got an email 'undeliverable' message.

I am forwarding an email thread from the
Chicago email group.  They are actively 
dealing with the issue of obtaining permission
to place caches by government organizations.

We can learn  from their proactive approach.



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Subject: [chicago_geocachers] Digest Number 212
Date: 23 Oct 2002 11:25:13 -0000
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There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Will County Update (LONG)
           From: "Brian (WO9LF)" <Brian@xxxxxxxxxx>
      2. Re: Will County Update (LONG)
           From: "cachew_nut" <jerry0984@xxxxxxxxx>


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:41:22 -0500
   From: "Brian (WO9LF)" <Brian@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Will County Update (LONG)

Hi Everyone,

Sorry this is such a long E-mail, but I wanted to keep everyone up on 
all the information I have.

 Yesterday I tried to call the guy that e-mailed me and kept missing 
him. I left him a message with my home number on it, and he returned my 
call while I was out. He left me his home phone number and told me that 
I could call him after 8 PM last night. I thought it best not to bother 
him at home, so at 8:30 last night, I was in the middle of writing him 
an E-mail when he called me again!
   From what I was able to learn, he is some sort of Conservation guy 
for the FPD. He was very cool about everything, and we had a nice talk 
for a good 30 minutes. We discussed several things, not only Geocaching, 
and some of the information and stories he told me about some of the 
Preserves were very interesting.
   As far as Geocaching goes, he said that it is a new thing for Will 
County, and they are still in the learning stages about it. He said that 
the thing that caught his attention was that there was 4 caches in 
particularly fragile areas that concerned him. I told him that I would 
see what I could do about letting the owners of those caches know, and 
see if they would archive and remove them.
  1 in particular was found by someone by accident, and the Police were 
called to investigate since they were not sure of it's origin. From what 
he said, it is an ammo box with no markings on the outside, so that's 
what alarmed them. I have not been to this particular cache, so I cant 
confirm that, but, at any rate, I will let the owner know.
   1 other cache is located in a place that is scheduled for a 
controlled burn at the end of the year. They did not want to remove it 
and have people looking all over for it, and they don't want to burn 
around it since they don't know what's in it, or what will happen when 
the ammo box is heated enough.
 I did mention Isle A La Cache and Kays Garage Sale, both of which he 
stated, "On the record, I would tell you to remove them, off the record, 
I will tell you that I really don't care about those 2 caches, as they 
are not in a fragile spot."
   I did a lot of apologizing for any inconvenience that the caches may 
have caused, and told him how much we appreciated letting someone know 
that they would like them removed, rather then just taking them.
   I then asked him if he thought it would be possible to get an open 
line of communication  between the FPD and cachers. I told him that we 
would like to continue to place caches in Will County, but would like to 
be able to do it with co-operation with the FPD. He said that it is a 
great possibility that something can be arranged, but the best thing to 
do is to call the FPD P.R. guy, of which he gave me the name and phone 
number. (I called him today, but he was not in today, so I will call 
tomorrow and let you all know what he says)
    He also stated that the FPD was going to discuss Geocaching at an 
upcoming meeting. I asked him if it was a public meeting and that I 
would be happy to attend and answer any questions that they may have, 
but it is their closed door monthly meeting, so I would not be able to go.
 Sooo, to sum up a really long E-mail, the discussion was really 
positive. He said that he personally thinks that Geocaching is great and 
would be beneficial to the the FPD as long as it is done with within 
certain bounds. (Yes, I did stress the Cache In, Trash Out philosophy, 
of which he was not aware of.)
  What I got out of the conversation was that the FPD is still in the 
learning stages regarding the hobby, and really has no opinion on it 
right now. I think that is great, because we are getting in from the 
beginning, so we have a unique chance here to make a good impression.
  I will discuss it further with the guy who's name he gave me, and will 
let you all know what how that goes. In the mean time, I will contact 
the owners of the caches that he wants removed. (One of them is one of 
my caches.) I would suggest that everyone refrain from placing any 
caches on Will County land until we get a chance to talk to them. We 
have a great opportunity here to make a good impression on them, and 
every  little bit helps!

  Thanks,

      Brian    Team WO9LF

-- As a matter of fact, no, I don't have a life.
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Brian Opalka       Amateur Radio Station WO9LF
          <Brian@xxxxxxxxxx>
          http://Briano.com/ 




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Message: 2
   Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:56:10 -0000
   From: "cachew_nut" <jerry0984@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Will County Update (LONG)

Good work, it sounds like they are not totally against the idea and 
talking with the pr guy may have some positive results!



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