[GeoStL] Food and Geocaching

What surprises me about all the hype about global warming is that the earth
has only warmed something like 1/10 of a degree in the last 100 years. I
can't find my source to back that, but I do remember that the actually
warming was very small. Ten degrees would be a major concern to me, but a
tenth of a degree is not. And the 1.7 degree Celsius over 100 years doesn't
sound like the end of the world. Warmer weather lengths growing season and
is more pleasant to geocache in, bringing the emails back to our usual
subjects of food and geocaching. I happen to be one of the few that believe
global warming is a natural cycle and will revert back. I also do not pay
much attention to these studies. I've worked with enough PhDs and research
to know that if you give two scientists the exact same raw data, they could
come up with completely opposite results, depending on who is backing them
financially.

 

Let's get back to eating (supporting agriculture) and caching (while
cleaning up our forests and parks).  

 

Laura Million

2_cats

 

 

From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gale R. Nie
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 2:26 PM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mo. issues tick warning

 

No denial here. The earth is warming a little like it has countless times in
the past. But one scientist says the CO2 is causing the temperature to
increase. Another scientist says the increase in CO2 follows temperature
increases instead of causing them.  I just try not to get swept up in all
the hysteria. Like I mentioned already, the wackos were telling us an ice
age was starting in the 1970s among other dooms day predictions over the
years from so called environmentalists.  Far from being in denial, I
actually think for myself and don't just jump on every environmental
bandwagon and blindly swallow the current flavor of the month.  What should
I do? Go out and buy fluorescent bulbs for all my lamps. (I do have a few
now)  My old incandescent bulbs are made in the U.S. and are safe to throw
in the trash.  My new fluorescent bulbs are made in China and state on the
package they contain Mercury and to manage in accord with disposal laws.
Those of you so eagerly waiting for '08 certainly don't want all our jobs
going overseas and don't want me to pollute the environment with mercury so
I don't know what to do now. ;-)

 

By the way, I've always known the earth is round and not sure what you meant
by the weaker sex crack since, based on your username, I'm the same sex as
you.

 

Gale

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: NachoDaddy <mailto:_rnx_@xxxxxxx>  

To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:30 AM

Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mo. issues tick warning

 

- 

I'd have to agree that the last 7.5 years have been a joke. Can't wait for
'08. 

Can you say denial? I bet you also argued that the world was flat when you
were young (er) and in school (oh wait, did they let the weaker sex go to
school way back then?). 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial 


p.s. the website is hysterical. thanks for sharing. I agree that the carbon
credit is ridiculous but that doesn't make the debit anything less. let's
not let the hypocrisy of a few dilute the discussion of a serious issue. 

------ Original Message ------ 
Received: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:04:36 PM EDT 
From: "Gale R. Nie" <showme69@xxxxxxxx> 
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mo. issues tick warning 



But mine are laughing at how silly we were in the 21st century. 

Gale 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: NachoDaddy <mailto:_rnx_@xxxxxxx>  

To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:45 PM 

Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mo. issues tick warning 

 

- 
I'm ashamed of you. My great great grandchildren are crying. 

------ Original Message ------ 
Received: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:15:59 PM EDT 
From: "Gale R. Nie" <showme69@xxxxxxxx> 
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mo. issues tick warning 


- 
Not me. The offsets are nothing but a scam, which I'm sure you already know.

You should check out the site where I'm getting the stickers from. You can 
buy a carbon debit and they'll execute a tree and turn it into mulch quicker

than you can say "Save me, Al Gore!" :-) It never ceases to amaze me 
how gullible most people can be to get sucked into fads like that. Remember 
in the 1970s when we were entering the new ice age? And remember thousands 
of years ago when the last ice age ended and the internal combustion engine 
wasn't even a glimmer in the caveman's eye? 

http://tinyurl.com/23lznf 

Gale 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric East" <christianherper@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:51 PM 
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mo. issues tick warning 


> - 
> LOL, and mine's bigger than yours! I'm buying carbon offesets! :-) 
> 
> Eric 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gale R. Nie" <showme69@xxxxxxxx> 
> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:20 PM 
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mo. issues tick warning 
> 
> 
>> - 
>> A couple days ago I ordered bumperstickers that say, "My Carbon Footprint

>> Is Bigger Than Yours". Can't wait to put it on my truck. :-) 
>> 
>> Gale 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:53 PM 
>> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mo. issues tick warning 
>> 
>> 
>>> - 
>>>>From another website... 
>>> 
>>> "officials said at the current rate, the Global Mean temperature will 
>>> rise 1.7 degrees Celsius over the next 100 years." 
>>> 
>>> I still think it might be too soon for Chicken Little... :-) 
>>> 
>>> Mike 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Carol Shahriary" <shah11@xxxxxxxxxx> 
>>> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:37 PM 
>>> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Mo. issues tick warning 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - 
>>> This is one of the many health-related consequences of 
>>> global warming. I'm serious. 
>>> See 
>>> http://news.mongabay.com/2005/1102-disease.html 
>>> 
>>> Chicken Little was right! 
>>> 
>>> Dancing Strawberry 
>>> 
>>> --- k Sneed <sneed14@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!! 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/sciencemedicine/story/897E
1D5ECEB29F23862572F20064FFC4?OpenDocument 
>>>> Mo. issues tick warning 
>>>> 
>>>> By Tina Hesman Saey <tsaey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>> ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH 
>>>> 06/06/2007 
>>>> 
>>>> Officials at the Missouri Department of Health and 
>>>> Senior Services are 
>>>> warning residents to be wary of ticks. A child in 
>>>> northeastern Missouri died 
>>>> May 23 of an infection with a tick-carried bacterium 
>>>> called Ehrlichia 
>>>> chaffeensis. That is one of three types of bacteria 
>>>> that cause the illness 
>>>> known as ehrlichiosis. All three types are found in 
>>>> Missouri. 
>>>> 
>>>> So far, the health department has confirmed 16 cases 
>>>> of ehrlichiosis and is 
>>>> investigating two other cases. On average, Missouri 
>>>> has about 9 cases of the 
>>>> diseases at this point during the year. 
>>>> Cases of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever have more than 
>>>> doubled this year. 
>>>> State health officials have confirmed 54 cases of 
>>>> the illness this season. 
>>>> In an average year, only 22 cases would have been 
>>>> seen by this time. 
>>>> 
>>>> Health officials have also had reports of 10 cases 
>>>> of Lyme-like disease and 
>>>> two cases of tularemia. 
>>>> 
>>>> Symptoms of the illness usually resemble the flu 
>>>> with body aches, tiredness, 
>>>> and fever, said Joyce Berkowitz, infection control 
>>>> practitioner at SSM 
>>>> Cardinal Glennon Children's Hospital. Rocky Mountain 
>>>> Spotted Fever usually 
>>>> starts with a rash, but rashes appear in less than 
>>>> half of people with 
>>>> ehrlichiosis. 
>>>> 
>>>> The hospital has seen only two possible cases of 
>>>> tick-borne illnesses this 
>>>> year. Advertisement 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "We usually start seeing stuff when the kids get out 
>>>> of school and are in 
>>>> vacation mode," Berkowitz said. 
>>>> 
>>>> Brian Allan, a biology graduate student at 
>>>> Washington University, has been 
>>>> tracking ticks for four years. It's too early in the 
>>>> season to say if the 
>>>> increase in diseases from tick bites are due to a 
>>>> larger number of ticks. 
>>>> In Illinois, the Department of Public Health has 
>>>> had an increase in the 
>>>> number ticks reported by veterinarians, doctors and 
>>>> others, but people have 
>>>> not fallen ill at a higher rate than usual. 
>>>> 
>>>> The increase in human illness may be due to a 
>>>> greater percentage of ticks 
>>>> carrying disease, Allan said. The infection rate is 
>>>> determined largely by 
>>>> population fluctuations in animals that serve as 
>>>> reservoirs for the 
>>>> diseases. 
>>>> 
>>>> For instance, a large number of infected 
>>>> white-tailed deer last fall could 
>>>> lead to an increase human disease now, he said. 
>>>> White tailed deer carry 
>>>> Ehrlichia chaffeensis. So Lonestar tick larvae could 
>>>> have feasted on 
>>>> infected deer last August or September, picking up 
>>>> the infection. The ticks 
>>>> over-winter and emerge as nymphs between May and 
>>>> July. Ticks at the 
>>>> nymph life stage are most likely to transmit disease 
>>>> to people, because 
>>>> nymphs are small and easy to miss and people often 
>>>> don't feel the 
>>>> ticks crawling on their skin, Allan said. 
>>>> 
>>>> Nymphs take a blood meal, drop off the host and 
>>>> over-winter, emerging as 
>>>> adults the following April. Adult ticks may also 
>>>> infect people, but are more 
>>>> noticeable and account for only a small number of 
>>>> infections with tick-borne 
>>>> diseases, Allan said. 
>>>> 
>>>> ----------- 
>>>> 
>>>> For more information: 
>>>> 
>>>> The Missouri Department of Health and Senior 
>>>> Services 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>
*www.dhss.mo.gov/TicksCarryDisease/*<http://www.dhss.mo.gov/TicksCarryDiseas
e/> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Illinois Department of Public Health 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>
*www.idph.state.il.us/public/hbhome.htm*<http://www.idph.state.il.us/public/
hbhome.htm> 
>>>> 
>>>> The National Center for Infectious Diseases at the 
>>>> Centers for Disease 
>>>> Control and Prevention page on Tick-Borne Illnesses 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>
*www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/list_tickborne.htm*<http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/d
iseases/list_tickborne.htm> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol Strawberry 
>>> "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at 
>>> different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." 
>>> (William James) 
>>> 
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