[GeoStL] Re: Favorite points!
- From: "Libby Morehead" <gmalibby@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:33:46 -0600
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Of those (many other cachers) I don't know a one! Who are they, Jim?
For me, I have never met a cache I didn't like.
Gma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Bensman" <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 6:57 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Favorite points!
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Glenn, I think your response misses the point. It shows why you cannot (as
Mr. President suggested) rely on the park and grab attribute. The ones you
describe would not meet the criteria for a numbers cache. Some cache
placers take the time and effort to find an interesting location. Then
there are cache places who are not placing a cache to show you an
interesting location or to challenge you. Their objective is to give
another easy smiley. My bet is if there was a numbers attribute, most
placers would check it when they are placing a numbers cache. Reviewers
could also question if it should be checked when the cache description is
not pointing to anything special about the spot or indicating it is cleverly
hidden. While this is not perfect, it is much better than what we have now
(i.e., nothing) and I suspect it would make dealing with all the numbers
caches manageable. I suspect requiring cache pages to identify who gave
permission to place their cache in the parki
ng lot (as opposed to letting cache placers act like it is public property)
would also help.
As to if you cannot say something nice****is not there also one something
like if a cache is worth placing, it is worth doing it right? When I first
started getting frustrated with how quantity is overwhelming quality, I lied
in my logs and did not say what I really thought. I stopped lying in my
logs as this would seem to encourage what I (and many other cachers) are fed
up with.
Jim Bensman
"Nature Bats Last"
-----Original Message-----
From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glenn
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 12:08 PM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Favorite points!
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Your logic has so many holes in it I can drive my environmentally
unfriendly, gas sucking SUV through it.
I just heard from a cacher that would not walk across the street to see
some stupid mural painted in a wall. Nothing could be more boring. Oh
well, there goes my series of really cool mutual lamp post caches.
I am sitting in a parking lot where there is a cache at a lamp pole
that I have yet to log. Probably never will BUT as I sit here I see
is a really cool rock cut in the cliff that i Never saw before. WOW, i
should pay better attention when i am in the parking lot. Know Future
could tell us all about the cool geology right here for all to see.
Before that big house landed on my floral designer sister she would
have told me that the giant Christmas wreath displayed on the store is
oh so very cool. Well, it's kind of neat but to me, oh so cool is a
stretch. A friends dad is a graphic artist from the old days, he would
be pleased to see all the neat graphical signage that they are doing
now a days and there is a large selection of cool signs here. Still,
here I sit next to this lame lamppost cache that I still probably never
log.
Ya can't legislate or regulate quality or lameness. I tried for a long
time as I looked at virtual caches. What is lame to me was always very
cool to the cache placer. And so it is with caches. My lame ain't your
lame but may be someones best cache ever. Go figure.
Via iP-4
On Dec 24, 2010, at 11:04 AM, "Jim Bensman" <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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> That's easy.
>
> Caches that show you an interesting location or are hidden in a
challenging way.
>
> A LPC by a mural would show you an interesting location so it would
be quality. A LPC in a Walmart parking lot would not show you an
interesting location. It would not meet the definition. Once you have
seen one Walmart lamppost, you've seen them all. But a mural is a
unique and interesting location.
>
> What I would like to see (if we cannot ban lame caches) is a Numbers
attribute. It would be defined as caches to get your numbers up that
do not show you an interesting location and are not hidden in a
challenging way.
>
> It simply amazes me with all Groundspeak keeps adding they cannot add
something to allow those of us who are fed up with and do not enjoy the
lame caches to filter them out. There are over 50 attributes already.
If someone cannot be bothered with taking the time to find an
interesting location or hide a cache in a challenging location, it
seems reasonable to expect them to identify their caches. But then
again when you see these numbers hounds shuffling caches to save a few
seconds and throw away series, maybe I am expecting too much.
>
> Jim Bensman
> "Nature Bats Last"
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-
>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glenn
>> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:21 PM
>> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Favorite points!
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>> Could you give a definition of what "quality" is.
>>
>> Please keep in mind that the definition has to work for all ages of
all
>> types of cachers with all differing abilities.
>>
>> A definition that is short works the best so limit yourself to a
>> sentence or two.
>>
>> One two, three, go ...
>>
>>
>> Via iP-4
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2010, at 12:19 PM, "Jim Bensman" <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don?t like it-I think it pushes quantity over quality.
>>
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