[GeoStL] Re: CoolCaches to be Archived

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I will say other people in other parts of the country
would disagree.

I'll leave it at that.

-Michael

--- Mike Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> -
> Thanks Glenn... It amazes me that people are so
> quick to judge without ever 
> meeting the guy..
> 
> Mike
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glenn Nash" <GLNash@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:06 PM
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: CoolCaches to be Archived
> 
> 
> > -
> > He is actually a he$$ of a nice guy, maintains his
> caches all over the 
> > country better than most folks maintain their
> caches in town.  He was one 
> > of the 1st folks to actually hide many caches
> downtown. Leave it to an out 
> > of towner to think anything like that would be
> important for anyone.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Lusicic wrote:
> >> - I just read his profile, and I came away with
> the following:
> >>
> >>    1. He has hidden quite a few caches, and with
> their diverse
> >>       locations may not be able to keep up with
> that many and that
> >>       MIGHT be a factor.
> >>    2. I have not hidden any so I really cannot
> know much about 1
> >>       above, so I think I should shy away from
> that.
> >>    3. I see someone who is avid about what he
> does and doesn't
> >>       understand those who are not up to his
> level of commitment.
> >>    4. He has his own ideas and feelings and is
> sharing them openly and
> >>       not trying to be politically correct. They
> just seem to be a
> >>       genuine expression of what he feels without
> a PC filter applied.
> >>       I rather like that and would rather know
> what someone REALLY
> >>       thinks even if I don't agree with them.
> >>    5. I like his approach to creating caches. I
> have not attempted to
> >>       find any of his, so I don't know whether
> what he says translates
> >>       into reality, but if it does, then I can
> see his disappointment
> >>       in his hard work being violated.
> >>    6. If he is hiding things just for the
> pleasure he gets out of the
> >>       logs and adulation for a good cache, then I
> think he could have
> >>       a better, healthier attitude. Perhaps he
> should not be in it for
> >>       praise or think it is only good if it works
> the way he envisions
> >>       it. 'Tis better to give than receive. That
> is just my own not
> >>       politically corrected opinion.
> >>    7. It is frustrating finding a cache that has
> been trashed, so I
> >>       can imagine his frustration in having to
> replace them.
> >>    8. I too don't feel like people should be
> making a big deal about
> >>       leaving, but this is a notice on his cache,
> which I can
> >>       certainly understand. He published his
> philosophy of not
> >>       archiving caches, so if he is going to
> change his policy, then I
> >>       see it as only a courtesy to announce that
> as well. He certainly
> >>       does not appear to have a problem with
> saying what is on his
> >>       mind. Again, I admire that.
> >>    9. I don't agree that he should be name
> calling, but if he has to
> >>       put a label on the group causing problems,
> then is it all that
> >>       bad? He may have chosen perhaps a better
> label which goes back
> >>       to political correctness, but if it is a
> reflection of what is
> >>       in his mind, and it is his cache page, then
> why not. I don't
> >>       believe in censorship.
> >>
> >> That being said, I respect the opinions expressed
> by others who don't 
> >> think very much of this guy. If I did otherwise I
> would be a hypocrite 
> >> since I don't believe in censorship. So in the
> end, he has opinions and 
> >> y'all do to. And here are mine. A different
> perspective often helps me 
> >> when I think about things. So that is why I
> express mine. Sometimes I get 
> >> something back that makes me think, and that is
> always a growth 
> >> experience. That is why I don't mind off topic
> discussions because I 
> >> think they are an opportunity to grow and learn.
> >>
> >> Michael Rogers wrote:
> >>> -
> >>> He could place a hundred of the best downtown
> and it
> >>> still wouldn't excuse his behavior.
> >>>
> >>> -Michael
> >>>
> >>> --- Andrew Senger <asenger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -
> >>>> Nice reply, Mike.
> >>>>
> >>>> If we took CC's caches away from downtown,
> there'd
> >>>> be hardly any left.
> >>>>  His hides are some of the best I've seen,
> >>>> especially for urban areas.
> >>>>  It took three trips to St Louis Riverfront to
> >>>> complete that one, and
> >>>> I still haven't found Old Saint Lou after three
> >>>> trips (granted, one at
> >>>> night).  There's another less than a block from
> >>>> where I park for work
> >>>> that I haven't tried yet.  I can only imagine
> that
> >>>> it's just as
> >>>> tricky.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not only does CC place caches, he's one of the
> few
> >>>> that will replace
> >>>> caches, whether it's replacing a broken
> container or
> >>>> a full log.
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew (yawetag)
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/26/07, Mike Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>> I agree with Coolcache. I think that if you
> take
> >>>>>
> >>>> the time for a good hide
> >>>>
> >>>>> with unique containers, you deserve more than
> a
> >>>>>
> >>>> cut and paste log. I have
> >>>>
> >>>>> seen people delete cut and paste logs
> (Dallas). If
> >>>>>
> >>>> you spend time creating a
> >>>>
> >>>>> clever cache, the least a person can do is
> hide it
> >>>>>
> >>>> back as they found it.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Too many times people just stuff it back
> because
> >>>>>
> >>>> there is another cache only
> >>>>
> >>>>> .15 from where they are. It gets frustrating!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He should be proud of the hides and his
> >>>>>
> >>>> containers. He has hidden 82.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Without people like him, what would we look
> for? I
> >>>>>
> >>>> know his pain.. I too
> >>>>
> >>>>> have become frustrated with carelessness.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>>>
> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Andrew Senger
> >>>> asenger@xxxxxxxxx
> 
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