[GeoStL] Re: CoolCaches to be Archived
- From: Glenn Nash <GLNash@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:06:35 -0500
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He is actually a he$$ of a nice guy, maintains his caches all over the
country better than most folks maintain their caches in town. He was
one of the 1st folks to actually hide many caches downtown. Leave it to
an out of towner to think anything like that would be important for anyone.
Mike Lusicic wrote:
- I just read his profile, and I came away with the following:
1. He has hidden quite a few caches, and with their diverse
locations may not be able to keep up with that many and that
MIGHT be a factor.
2. I have not hidden any so I really cannot know much about 1
above, so I think I should shy away from that.
3. I see someone who is avid about what he does and doesn't
understand those who are not up to his level of commitment.
4. He has his own ideas and feelings and is sharing them openly and
not trying to be politically correct. They just seem to be a
genuine expression of what he feels without a PC filter applied.
I rather like that and would rather know what someone REALLY
thinks even if I don't agree with them.
5. I like his approach to creating caches. I have not attempted to
find any of his, so I don't know whether what he says translates
into reality, but if it does, then I can see his disappointment
in his hard work being violated.
6. If he is hiding things just for the pleasure he gets out of the
logs and adulation for a good cache, then I think he could have
a better, healthier attitude. Perhaps he should not be in it for
praise or think it is only good if it works the way he envisions
it. 'Tis better to give than receive. That is just my own not
politically corrected opinion.
7. It is frustrating finding a cache that has been trashed, so I
can imagine his frustration in having to replace them.
8. I too don't feel like people should be making a big deal about
leaving, but this is a notice on his cache, which I can
certainly understand. He published his philosophy of not
archiving caches, so if he is going to change his policy, then I
see it as only a courtesy to announce that as well. He certainly
does not appear to have a problem with saying what is on his
mind. Again, I admire that.
9. I don't agree that he should be name calling, but if he has to
put a label on the group causing problems, then is it all that
bad? He may have chosen perhaps a better label which goes back
to political correctness, but if it is a reflection of what is
in his mind, and it is his cache page, then why not. I don't
believe in censorship.
That being said, I respect the opinions expressed by others who don't
think very much of this guy. If I did otherwise I would be a hypocrite
since I don't believe in censorship. So in the end, he has opinions
and y'all do to. And here are mine. A different perspective often
helps me when I think about things. So that is why I express mine.
Sometimes I get something back that makes me think, and that is always
a growth experience. That is why I don't mind off topic discussions
because I think they are an opportunity to grow and learn.
Michael Rogers wrote:
-
He could place a hundred of the best downtown and it
still wouldn't excuse his behavior.
-Michael
--- Andrew Senger <asenger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
-
Nice reply, Mike.
If we took CC's caches away from downtown, there'd
be hardly any left.
His hides are some of the best I've seen,
especially for urban areas.
It took three trips to St Louis Riverfront to
complete that one, and
I still haven't found Old Saint Lou after three
trips (granted, one at
night). There's another less than a block from
where I park for work
that I haven't tried yet. I can only imagine that
it's just as
tricky.
Not only does CC place caches, he's one of the few
that will replace
caches, whether it's replacing a broken container or
a full log.
Andrew (yawetag)
On 10/26/07, Mike Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
-
I agree with Coolcache. I think that if you take
the time for a good hide
with unique containers, you deserve more than a
cut and paste log. I have
seen people delete cut and paste logs (Dallas). If
you spend time creating a
clever cache, the least a person can do is hide it
back as they found it.
Too many times people just stuff it back because
there is another cache only
.15 from where they are. It gets frustrating!!
He should be proud of the hides and his
containers. He has hidden 82.
Without people like him, what would we look for? I
know his pain.. I too
have become frustrated with carelessness.
Mike
--
Andrew Senger
asenger@xxxxxxxxx
http://yawetag.110mb.com
"I can't win anything. In fact, if you look up
'loser' in the
dictionary, you'll see someone else's photo!"
--Andrew Senger
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- I just read his profile, and I came away with the following:
1. He has hidden quite a few caches, and with their diverse
locations may not be able to keep up with that many and that
MIGHT be a factor.
2. I have not hidden any so I really cannot know much about 1
above, so I think I should shy away from that.
3. I see someone who is avid about what he does and doesn't
understand those who are not up to his level of commitment.
4. He has his own ideas and feelings and is sharing them openly and
not trying to be politically correct. They just seem to be a
genuine expression of what he feels without a PC filter applied.
I rather like that and would rather know what someone REALLY
thinks even if I don't agree with them.
5. I like his approach to creating caches. I have not attempted to
find any of his, so I don't know whether what he says translates
into reality, but if it does, then I can see his disappointment
in his hard work being violated.
6. If he is hiding things just for the pleasure he gets out of the
logs and adulation for a good cache, then I think he could have
a better, healthier attitude. Perhaps he should not be in it for
praise or think it is only good if it works the way he envisions
it. 'Tis better to give than receive. That is just my own not
politically corrected opinion.
7. It is frustrating finding a cache that has been trashed, so I
can imagine his frustration in having to replace them.
8. I too don't feel like people should be making a big deal about
leaving, but this is a notice on his cache, which I can
certainly understand. He published his philosophy of not
archiving caches, so if he is going to change his policy, then I
see it as only a courtesy to announce that as well. He certainly
does not appear to have a problem with saying what is on his
mind. Again, I admire that.
9. I don't agree that he should be name calling, but if he has to
put a label on the group causing problems, then is it all that
bad? He may have chosen perhaps a better label which goes back
to political correctness, but if it is a reflection of what is
in his mind, and it is his cache page, then why not. I don't
believe in censorship.
That being said, I respect the opinions expressed by others who don't
think very much of this guy. If I did otherwise I would be a hypocrite
since I don't believe in censorship. So in the end, he has opinions
and y'all do to. And here are mine. A different perspective often
helps me when I think about things. So that is why I express mine.
Sometimes I get something back that makes me think, and that is always
a growth experience. That is why I don't mind off topic discussions
because I think they are an opportunity to grow and learn.
Michael Rogers wrote:
**************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> http://www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw- He could place a hundred of the best downtown and it still wouldn't excuse his behavior. -Michael --- Andrew Senger <asenger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:- Nice reply, Mike. If we took CC's caches away from downtown, there'd be hardly any left. His hides are some of the best I've seen, especially for urban areas. It took three trips to St Louis Riverfront to complete that one, and I still haven't found Old Saint Lou after three trips (granted, one at night). There's another less than a block from where I park for work that I haven't tried yet. I can only imagine that it's just as tricky. Not only does CC place caches, he's one of the few that will replace caches, whether it's replacing a broken container or a full log. Andrew (yawetag) On 10/26/07, Mike Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:- I agree with Coolcache. I think that if you takethe time for a good hidewith unique containers, you deserve more than acut and paste log. I haveseen people delete cut and paste logs (Dallas). Ifyou spend time creating aclever cache, the least a person can do is hide itback as they found it.Too many times people just stuff it back becausethere is another cache only.15 from where they are. It gets frustrating!! He should be proud of the hides and hiscontainers. He has hidden 82.Without people like him, what would we look for? Iknow his pain.. I toohave become frustrated with carelessness. Mike-- Andrew Senger asenger@xxxxxxxxx http://yawetag.110mb.com "I can't win anything. In fact, if you look up 'loser' in the dictionary, you'll see someone else's photo!" --Andrew Senger**************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click ----->http://www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw**************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from thislist, click -----> http://www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw
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