[GeoStL] Re: Ammo Cans?

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Keep in mind that the Bomb Squad would have never been called on that
cache in CA if the owner of the cache had not placed it on land that was
posted NO Trespassing. We all need to be careful to secure permission
before placing a cache.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Bensman
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:26 PM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Ammo Cans?

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Sounds good in theory, but that is not reality.  There are lots of
people
working for these agencies and they all don't know what is there.
Glen's
Greer Spring Cache was in an ammo can and Forest Service law enforcement
found it and thought it was drugs.  So they removed it.  The Forest
Supervisor of the Mark Twain National Forest told me it was OK to place
caches in Wilderness Areas, but a employee recently removed the Pioneer
cache.  So don't expect every employee to know what they are stumbling
upon.

And then there are people stumbling on it.

Let's also not forget about that guy from CA who hid an ammo can by a
railroad.  The bomb squad got called out and the cache placer was
arrested
and got fined thousands of dollars.

People are certainly free to use them in places that don't allow them.
But
I think it is not a good idea.  Simply my opinion.  What would be nice
would
be a good ammo can that was see through.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Griffin
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 7:07 PM
> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Ammo Cans?
>
>
> -
> I think if you "Place with Permission" they will know the contents and
it
> doesn't become an issue. Busch comes to mind as John knows each cache,
its
> location and contents. I know that some places are stating they want
it
> clear see through and we should follow that to a T. Illinois is
> one of those
> states that acted before they understood the purpose of geocaching.
Quite
> frankly, it was just approached wrong from the beginning in Chicago.
Many
> placed without permission. This is why it is so important to state how
it
> can benefit the park. Show it to be advantageous and you will
> definitely win
> them over regardless of the container.
>
> I like ammo cans in certain areas and other areas I would prefer to
see
> tupperware. It all depends on where you place them. If you are
> several miles
> into the woods and hidden behind a log or in a stump, ammo cans last a
lot
> longer. They pose no threat being so remotely located. If you are in
the
> more public areas, it only makes sense to use plastic..
>
> Besides, Ammo cans hold more of Glenns Diaper wrapped disposable
> batteries..
> :-)
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Bensman" <jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:31 PM
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Ammo Cans?
>
>
> > -
> > IMHO, in this day and age, people should not use ammo containers.
They
> > should use a container that people who stumble upon it can see
inside so
> > they can see it is not something dangerous.  When I have
> listened to land
> > managers about geocaching, ammo boxes and containers that you cannot
see
> > inside concerns them.  I understand IL plans to ban their use on
state
> > lands.  I have never placed a cache in one and never will.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dan Henke
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:29 PM
> > > To: geocaching
> > > Subject: [GeoStL] Ammo Cans?
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Stopped by the Army Surplus store just west of Rolla
> > > last night and they have very nice ammo boxes for $3
> > > to $5 .....In the course of talking with the owner he
> > > was saying that ammo boxes will be getting harder to
> > > find now that ammo comes in cardboard boxes. He was
> > > also asking if I knew anyone who would like a bunch of
> > > ammo boxes....He is placing a bid on a lot of ammo
> > > boxes at Ft. Leonard Wood and doesn't have room for
> > > them all.....He is bidding on 1500 to 3000 boxes....He
> > > only has room for about half of them....I told him I
> > > would ask here if there was anyone or a group that
> > > would like to purchase a bunch at one time....probably
> > > get a very good deal on them!!!!
> > >
> > > If you are interested let me know and I will start
> > > negotiations with him on price etc....or I will put
> > > you in touch with him.
> > >
> > > Dan (Thunder)
> > >
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