Hi, Thanks for your reply Tim, I found just a couple books worthwhile: http://www.amazon.com/Game-Engine-Design-Interactive-Technology/dp/1558605932 http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Toolset-Development-Graham-Wihlidal/dp/1592009638/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238466839&sr=1-4 Which of these do you think would be best? Or is there another that would be good for me? We plan on making a really simple engine that we could build on. My friend insists on making a 3d engine....he is a good arguer, I might be able to convince him otherwise if i need to though. Though, all the online tutorials don't look worthwhile. Thanks, Julian Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: (no subject) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:51:15 -0500 From: tharrington@xxxxxxxxx To: gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Julian, This is one of those questions that you want to use Amazon.com for book searches or Google for simple engine design. Depending on the complexity of the game you are designing you can build an engine with adaptability and flexibility for future iterations of your game. Tim J. Harrington Assistant Dean College of Engineering and Information Sciences University Academic Affairs Game & Simulation Programming Web Graphics Design Multimedia Design & Development DeVry University p: 602.870.9222 x 847 f: 602.734.1999 c: 623-628-7890 e: tharrington@xxxxxxxxx www.devry.edu From: gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of julian stanley Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:08 PM To: gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gameprogrammer] (no subject) Hey guys, I am looking for what would be the best way to make a simple game engine using C++. Me and a few friends were going to try to make a simple engine from scratch, but we are now sure how to do that. If it is possible to make an engine with MVC++(Microsoft Visual C++ express) are there any good tutorials on how to? And if you can't make it with only MVC++, what is the best way of making one? Thanks, Julian Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 – Get your Hotmail Accelerated. Download free! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/