Oh yay, thanks for all the answers guys, never thought it was this fast :O I'm looking at a pyGame / pyOpenGL tutorial right now... it doesn't look that bad, and the syntax's easy, I guess I'm gonna try my luck with this one but if you all know more please say! I'd like to try alternatives too :) Yes, I've used SDL in C++ and it's been quite hard for me since I'm not really used to C++ classes and some SDL stuff, I tried to learn and made some quick thingies, but nothing much and it was 2D... I want 3D :P Yes I know BlitzMax but it isn't free, neither Torque is, I'm looking for free alternatives :) but thanks for the suggestion :D