[gameprogrammer] Re: [] Re: OT: Please Vote
- From: Bob Pendleton <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:04:08 -0600
On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 04:14, jorgefm@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
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> Please read a little about yourself from a different vi= ewpoint.
> I'm not talking about Michael Moore and friends but from NoamChomsky and
> other well documented people, then you'll realize
> about th= e world hate against your country...
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Ah well... I didn't expect any sort of reactions like this one. I just
wanted to try to get the US citizens on the list to go vote.
This whole thread about hate reminds me of a lesson I learned on the
playground in grade school. Some people will hate you no matter what you
do. No body likes someone who tries to please everyone. The only way to
be well liked is to be yourself. The more you are yourself the more you
will be both liked and hated. The only thing to do is be yourself, value
your friends, and be prepared for the occasional fight with those who
hate you.
Bob Pendleton
P.S.
I assume your native language is Spanish (you are posting from a site in
Barcelona), which is indeed a beautiful language. It is, of course, one
of the native languages of Texas, where I live. OTOH, German is also a
native Texas language, but its use is declining.
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> Jorge
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> "Todd Super Bas= sist" <toddjasp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> See b= elow
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> Likely... I think you'l= l see China becomming the next world power in about
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> Fr= om: "Frank Henry" <frank.henry@xxxxxxx>
> To: <gameprog= rammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:01 PM
> Sub= ject: [gameprogrammer] Re: OT: Please Vote
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> >Sorry Todd but THAT is exactly that what causes the= "anti-americanism"
> >as you call it.
> >
> >Ameri= cans seem to have some kinda rabid paranoia and thinks that the
> >wor= ld is after them. If anyone says anything that can be taken in a
> >ne= gative way the whining and flaming starts.
> >Add the arrogance that y= ou are the perfect people and can do what you
> >want in the world and= you get exactly that ignorance.
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> I get the impression that you're arguing with me, almost berating = me, but
> I
> said exactly what you're agreeing to??
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> My whole family on my dad's side lives in Europe. I= have an aunt in France,
> about 30 relatives in Holland, an aunt and uncl= e in downtown London, an
> uncle in Spain, and several in Egypt. I PERSONA= LLY never said I think I'm
> awesome. I was just explaining that Europe ha= tes us because we basically
> do
> whatever we want. But what do you want me= to do about it? You guys created
> the European Union to help defend your= selves from our econmic power, and
> rightly you should have.
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> >Just because you currently hate= all that is not american does not mean
> >the world thinks likewise.
> I have absolutely NO idea wh= at you're talking about. As a matter of fact,
> I
> absolutely love other cu= ltures. So does the United States, we are a
> cultural
> melting pot. I've b= een all over Europe and other places, and I am
> absolutely
> fascinated by = other cultures. I'm not saying this to show off, but to give
> an example = of other cultures I've been exposed to. Egypt, India,
> Thailand..... the = Thai people absolutely LOVE Americans. I've never been
> treated so well i= n my life as the day I walked into a Mc.Donalds in
> Bangkok,
> Thailand. I = love Europe too... I especially have a huge desire to own old
> British sp= orts cars. I watch Formula-1, I like World Cup Soccer. I'm no
> different = than you are. The difference is that you ONLY hear what your
> media
> prese= nts to you. You never hear ANY of the positive aspects of anything we
> do= , you guys only hear the negatives.
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> Did you know that we fund 90% of the costs of the UN? Did you know = that we
> provide more food aid, and monetary aid to third world countries= than any
> country in the entire world? I'm not saying this to convince y= ou how
> awesome
> we are, but I'm saying this because I seriously doubt you= knew ANY of this.
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> >= You would be surprised how much people in Europe like the people in the
> = US.
> >It is the politics they don't like.
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> I've been there many many times, especially in Holland.= They like American
> 80s music... I don't know why though.
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> >The people of the US could certai= nly be called a "race". Not in an
> >ethnic sence but in a g= roup-kinda way.
> >
> > From the way you write it sonds like = you are projecting your hate uppon
> >others.
> >You group people= wo critisize your actions with those that attacked and
> >killed your= people.
> >Is that really your intention?
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> Absolutely not, I have no idea where you got the impres= sion that I was
> critisizing you at all? I was simply stating the fact th= at the US DOES
> pretty much do what we feel is necessaryt. Why would you = hate "ME" for
> that?
> Because I'm American??? I haven't said any= thing negative about you.
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> &g= t; People are different around the world and they act and talk
> differently> as well.
> >I once was whitness of two of my greek friends tal= king about the movie
> >Troy. For me they werer this ->||<- clos= e from ripping each other apart.
> >But they were just arguing like th= ey usually do.
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> Troy? I've ne= ver seen it. Is that an animitronic movie where they show
> Greek
> Mytholog= y? I love those old movies.
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> >Rascism must not just be the hate against one but can also be the = hate
> >against all that is not one.
> >
> >Maybe one day we = might drink a beer together and you can see how we
> >really are.
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> I have been drunk in Holland ple= nty of times.... it's great. I think you
> are
> both misunderstanding me, a= nd judging me as you assume I have judged you.
> (which I have not).
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> >Frank
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> Todd
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