[gameprogrammer] Re: Multithreaded humor and musings
- From: brianevans <brianevans@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:36:18 -0500
I know a billion dollars seems like a lot of money... but to companies
like Sony and Microsoft losing a billion on hardware is no big deal and
is not even vaguely a case of "betting the company". It is normal for
console companies to lose money on the console for a year or more while
they make money selling the games.
This is true. In that same article they write:
>By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 yen ($364) in Japan and $299
in America when it
>launched in 2000. During its first year of release, Sony Computer
Entertainment suffered a loss of >51.1 billion yen ($458 million), but it
recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion yen >($759 million),
followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the year after.
That's definitely good numbers there. Sony has history on its side. So
maybe the "betting the farm" comment was a bit of hyperbole. ;)
Nevertheless, there's a number of issues that make me think that things
will pan out differently this time:
1) Sony is struggling overall right now: "The company's quarterly net loss
grew to about $533 million (56.5 billion yen) from about $360 million a
year earlier" --http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-5686459.html
2) Microsoft will be first this time, by around 6 months and a holiday
season.
3) Microsoft has a proven, managed online service in Xbox Live, and I have
yet to see something comparible from Sony.
4) Linking with "media edition." The ability to beam movies from your PC
to your living room tv is a killer
feature. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/entertainment.htm
5) The xbox also appears to win on cost right now, and ease of development.
I know I'm starting to sound like an Xbox zealot, but I honestly predict
Microsoft to win this round, at least in the US (Japan may very well be a
different story). But all we can do is wait and see. There are tons of
Sony loyalists out there that very well may prove me wrong. :)
I'm still a big believer in PC games, but consoles have their moments every
now and then.
I didn't mean for this to turn into Sony vs Microsoft. Well, perhaps a
little, but I was more interested in the question of symmetric vs
asymmetric multi processing as evidenced in Xenon (xbox 360 cpu) vs cell.
brian.
(oops, sent previous with wrong address)
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I know a billion dollars seems like a lot of money... but to companies like Sony and Microsoft losing a billion on hardware is no big deal and is not even vaguely a case of "betting the company". It is normal for console companies to lose money on the console for a year or more while they make money selling the games.
This is true. In that same article they write:
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