http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2005/03/burn_baby_burn.html I don't know if you folks have been following the anti-industry flames that came out the GDC, it has been interesting in a "very rich person crying over a hang nail" sort of way. The above link has a lot to say about how to do *real* *successful* independent game development. Worth a read. Bob Pendleton --------------------- To unsubscribe go to http://gameprogrammer.com/mailinglist.html