[gameprogrammer] Re: 1 and half year project

Just a couple of comments. First off, over the life of this list I
have seen many projects start, and very few finish.

The number one reason they finish is a strong team that is capable of
continuing no matter who drops out.

What usually happens to the failures is that they go off, create a
private mailing list, maybe set up a repository on sourceforge, or
somewhere else, and over time the members drop off because their lives
have changed. Even if the the leader stays around, he finds himself
with no one helping and no way to get people involved.

To keep the project going you need to have more than one "main" person
and you have to have access to new members. So, I'm going to suggest
that you keep discussions going on this list. It is OK, that's a
perfectly valid thing to do on the list (I'm list owner, so I get to
say...). If you keep it out here where there are hundreds of people
looking at the discussion and watching the development your
discussions might take longer, but you will have more people
contributing answers. Also, you will have a steady source of people
who might want to join in the development. OTOH, by all means set up
your own repository on sourceforge (or where ever).

Keep the activity out where people can see it, where you can develop a
community.

Remember that in a community you do not have to wait for one person,
you can do it yourself. So, if there is some hold up right now, just
start.

To answer Prateek's question, make the next move, announce it, and
then move on. If the "leader" doesn't lead, a new leader, or a
committee, or group consensus, or what ever... will take over. Most of
us live in various forms of democracies (hey, completely off topic,
but way to go India! Great election!) We know how to make group
decisions. But, sometimes, someone just has to get out there and do it
on their own until the others follow.

So, just get on with it. Keep the discussions out here in public. And,
good luck.

Bob Pendleton

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Prateek<varshneyprateek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> so are we doing this or not???
>
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Esam Bustaty <e.bustaty@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I am experienced in rendering graphics.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "®£$ǖ"v@M$Ħ ¢© $." <theamericansushi@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thursday, 28 May, 2009 4:30:04 PM
>> Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: 1 and half year project
>>
>> Ok all.. we need a graphics prgrammer..physics programming ...artist
>> ....and a charachter and terrain modeler....About creating a new genre i
>> would like to creat e a simple rts game as my start..so ill create a new
>> genre later :) ....So  who ever is interested and can give us what we need
>> pls reply...
>>
>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM, rushikesh deshpande
>> <rushikesh90@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am starting a xna game progrmming project.If anyone want to join me
>>> and have programming experience of c# please mail
>>> me.rushikesh90@xxxxxxxxx
>>> I am new to game programming.So please be co-operative.
>>>
>>> On 5/28/09, Esam Bustaty <e.bustaty@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > I am in, but i am located in Damascus, Syria.
>>> >
>>> > I worked in game engine development for two years, and i worked on
>>> > torque
>>> > game engine too.
>>> > I really experienced in shader programming...
>>> >
>>> > It's a pleasure to include me...
>>> > Muhammed Esam Bustaty
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: Prateek <varshneyprateek@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > Sent: Thursday, 28 May, 2009 11:05:54 AM
>>> > Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: 1 and half year project
>>> >
>>> > I am in for game programming...
>>> >
>>> > i am located in Hyderabad (India) and have some programming experience.
>>> > i can even host a SVN server and a forum for our group i.e. if u want.
>>> >
>>> > so if you are starting a project include me in.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks and regards
>>> > Prateek.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Sami Näätänen <sn.ml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Wednesday 27 May 2009 06:24:02 Alan Wolfe wrote:
>>> >> oh and last one (i promise!)
>>> >>
>>> >> if you can, make it so your SVN server emails your mailing list
>>> >> whenever
>>> >> someone does a checkin and have it include the user who did the
>>> >> checkin,
>>> >> their checkin notes, and the files they modified.
>>> >>
>>> >> this has been INVALUABLE for keeping everyone on the same page for
>>> >> whats
>>> >> being worked on / what's been fixed / new features / etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> oh and make sure your programmers never check in unstable code - it
>>> >> really
>>> >> pisses off your artists hahah
>>> >
>>> > And write a proper pre-commit hook for not allowing bogus source
>>> > changes
>>> > etc.
>>> > For example coding style changes (indentation) really destroy diffs.
>>> > Simple pre-commit hook prevents commits if the commit contains code
>>> > that the
>>> > styler would want to alter. So the failing commit should just tell the
>>> > commiter to run the styler before retrying to commit. This is simple,
>>> > easy
>>> > and
>>> > effective. And besides this way everybody can use what ever style they
>>> > want
>>> > while they are working with the code.
>>> >
>>> > Also one can reguire at least 20 character long log messages, disallow
>>> > build
>>> > paths, set svn properties for certain file types etc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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