***This is a message from a member of Friends of Students for 60,000*** Hola to All. Mike Cipoletti, Lisa Flanagan and I just returned from Nicaragua. Mike was there for a week and a half with a group of alumni from SUNY Binghamton, mostly club alumni. Also there were two from Miami Dade Univ. who went to Nica in May and returned for more involvement. There were also two young women from Brooklyn, NYC teachers. One has some grant money for a school project and ran into Mike. Lisa and I were there to have meetings with the people on a variety of topics including the NA water situation, the Comedor Escolar situation, the purchase of 7 manzanas for the Field of Dreams project, to have a general meeting with the people of NA to get more motivated to participate, and to meet with Conchita about how to improve the manner in which we select families for new houses, how much to charge each family for the house (the cost about $1800 or so a piece and we have been charging $0. We all agree that the recipient families should pay a portion, which now seems like 25% or so over a four or five year period, or about $10 per month.), and other matters related to housing, the SG housing grant, houses the club may build in the future, Shari's JMU group's houses, houses built by the college groups Mike brings, etc. Most of our meetings were either all successful, or at least partly successful. We met with CE Commission on Sunday July 26. At the meeting a number of things were discussed to try to clear the air on some old troublesome topics and to move forward. Mike is now replacing me as the Comedor Escolar Coordinator General and will attend CE meetings when he's in Nica and have a vote. He will also (hopefully) become official (i.e. have his name on the letterhead just like Liz, Monica and the five CE members), not just be a figure head coordinator. He can also provide us up north here with updates, facts, bank info, needs, etc. This is a change as I've been CE CG for the past 13 years but my role was mostly to keep kids in the club aware and interested, and to keep funds coming. Students for 60000 has been about 80% of the CE project's funding all along, so having someone who works with the club, Friends and various alumni college groups like Mike should be a good thing. Also, on the weeks when Mike is not in Nica, the commission agreed that Conchita will be able to attend the commission's weekly meetings and report back to Mike or us on what's what. We also discussed a number of miscommunication matters and most were resolved. We all agreed to move forward. I'm happy that the CE is still in existence, that the five commission members (Flor, Rigoberto, Guillermo, Oscar and Acencion) are all still involved, interested in kid's nutrition, working hard. With the addition of Mike to the commission I believe things can only get better. Monica was not present. How she reacts to this change will be up to her according to the Commision. If she chooses to attend with Mike present in this new role, then great. If not, then Mike will have his first problem to deal with. The commission members like the result of what we discussed at the meeting. I will become less of an official person with the project, but Flor did say I was still part of things, like "CG Emeritas" or something like that. I do intend to speak with Friends about seeking grant money for Chac. nutrition projects in the future and will work through the new CG Mike if successful. I believe the CE project is not only very important, but that it is historic. It is/ought to be a national model, based on the Booker T. Washington Tuskeegee model, of how a group of students from the U.S. can help work with poor children and adults to improve the nutrition of thousands of children in a sustainable way. It has had its ups and downs over the year, but the success of the project is quite amazing. There are 14 comedores all built by money from the club, 50-60 cows, mostly purchased by the students, 73.5 mzs. of land (about 125 acres), all purchased by the students, a tractor and other equipment and things,from a grant I wrote in the late 90's, and 1850 kids eat one meal each day. About 30% of this eating comes from the proceeds of the animals, the tractor, and the land, and the other 70% from govt. hand outs, charitable donations, etc. A goal is to have it become 50% or 80% sustainable in the future. I feel better that Mike's involved, he's got business acumen, energy, vision, and is tireless. Right now he's got the con, buena suerte Mike. As for the NA general meeting on Friday July 24, it was a good meeting with many NA residents in attendance and not too many of the small playful or crying children which also tend to be distractions or shorten meetings. While some of us wanted to say to the people "You all have to do more in the way of participation/involvement with the community or we're done here," we also recognized their plight, the lack of employment, the struggle for water, the many problems they face, etc., so we tried to speak to both issues: encouragement for them to get more involved, and how we'd keep working hard to bring a solution to the water problem. In addition to Lisa, Mike, me and some of the SUNY Bing. students, Douglas' partner Yader (not Yader Salgado, but a solar water installer from Managua) was with us also. We picked him up in Managua on Thurs. night and he stayed in Chac. and accompanied us to NA to look at the existing well, see the land/houses, and look at El Cortizal (1500 meters east of downtown NA, visible from the curvy road into NA) where we hoped to consider a new water source since the existing well in NA is back to having arsenic problems (40ppb when the standard is now 10ppb). Yader was very bright and experienced it seems. He spoke to the assembly of people and got their attention about getting more involved in the community, participating, etc. Overall this meeting was good and people agreed that more had to get involved. Still, I went to the biointensive garden area where Gonzalo showed Yader and me the garden. He said only two families are involved, his and another. Mike says more are involved, but either way out of 59 families, there is a huge lack of involvement for a project that has already received $5000 students dollars. But there's new hope from this meeting I hope. Also when we first purchased the NA land in spring of 2002, we plotted for each family to receive 1/2 a manzana, or about .85 acres. Near the Biointensive garden one family has the entire .85 planted with healthy looking corn. It is the rainy season and things are all green. But sadly most of the 59 family's plots are green with weeds as nothing is planted. About 20% of the families have some planting, and 80% are weeds with nothing planted. COnchita did say that some families, like many of the farmers in Chac., fear that the rains of May-August are too insufficient, and that from Aug.-Nov., when rains are more predictable, there may be more planting done by more families. I hope so. After the meeting Lisa, Yader and I, along with two club alumni went to El Cortizal to see the well in question, the one that we'd been hearing about that had plentiful, cooler water that was available for purchase. This well is one we've known and used for years now. It is the hand cranked "bomba de mescate" that the people have used since NA began in 2002 whenever the La Union water was shut off, or without electricity and the NA people had no water. The 20 families/83 people of barrio El Cortizal have always let the NA people take water in such an emergency. But while we were there about five of them came over and we spoke about the possibility of purchasing a small plot there which one landowner was willing to sell, and digging a well, and then sending the water over to NA about a mile away. They had mixed reaction to this idea. Then a few more showed up, and then more until about 25 were present, or about 1/3 of the community. About 1/4 seemed ok with the idea, and the other 3/4 were very opposed. The conversation got loud and it appeared obvious that if a land purchase/well digging/water taking project were to begin, there'd be big problems, maybe even serious ones. The opponents to our idea of this water project were very vocal about saying no one was taking their water. Right now they don't use the hand crank bomba de mescate. Since it is rainy season they take run off from the nearby mountains which they pipe in from the base of the mts. They only use the hand crank pump when there is no mountain water coming in to them. It is their back up water source. They figure that if we took water for 59 additional families of NA their water source would be depleted, which it arguably would be depending on how much water is down there. I suggested that if we discovered there was plenty of water and we put in a new solar water system we could perhaps cut them in on the water, meaning that the 59 households from NA and the 20 from El Cortizal would all take from the new well. The majority didn't want to hear about anyone taking their back up water. We left before things escalated any further and most agreed that this was now a closed idea. Conchita however thinks that some more will be flexible and this idea is still a possibility in the future after a cooling off period. We'll see. But in my mind there will be risk with this approach because we don't know how much water is there, (we did find out that the well was dug by a charity group in 2003) and we don't know about how good the water is either (i.e. arsenic or other problems) so its a risk to dig there. Also the opponents, and there are plenty of them, could be big trouble and there could be major community bad feelings if we buy/dig and the opponents get mad. We spokeon the way home of the Hatfields and the McCoys. One more thing, the water coming out of the bomba was hot in my opinion. Mike said he tested it and it was 80 degrees. I have gone swimming in Gulf of Mexico water in FL which was 85 degrees. This water was hot to the touch, about as hot as I remember the NA water to be. I'd say it was well over 100 which presents another problem. However, I think this is all moot as right now there's no way to go forward there and the people are without their own water source. On the temporary bright side of the water situation, at the NA general meeting two members of Vision Mundial, a church group that does water and other projects, were present. They are providing truck loads of water on a regular basis for the near future, maybe a few months. So the people aren't waterless at this time, but this won't last forever. I'm not a water expert or tech person like George or Bill, but based on what I saw/learned I'd say that the best option now, since the people of NA own the land where the current well is, and since it has plenty of water, that we consider the best way to go solar and to reduce the arsenic level and then problem solved. For what its worth, the well was dug in 2006 and the first tests showed a level of 43ppb arsenic to water. This test was done by Monica and martin in a manner which Puritec said was improper. All they did was lower a rope down with a bucket/jar and scooped out some water and had it tested. We learned that the well had to be purged for a few hours and then that water tested. We paid $900 to Puritec for a test and they purged for half an hour and due to the heat of the water the portable pump they brought kept shutting down. This half hour purge showed a level of 25 or so ppb, much less that the 43 ppb from the incorrectly tested water. Then when we were more or less forced to go forward with the current failed diesel system Glen and Monica spent $2000 to have a test done which involved a purge of 24 hours. This was done and it only lowered the water table a few inches showing that there is plenty of water there. This test showed only 12ppb. Now MINSA says there are 40ppb. I am not really confident that that is true as I doubt they tested with a recommended 24 hour purging of the well. Either way, we know from Dr. Meng's research that water in Bangaladesh that has 2000ppb can be cleaned. So it must be much easier to clean water that has between 12 and 40ppb. I think we should be thinking in the direction of cleaning the present/plentiful NA water and going forward with what we've got. Also Mike says that his friend Clelia has contacts that know of this topic, so good luck Clelia. (can Mike, Bill, George, Dick, etc whove been emailing back and forth about water also cc the Friends freelist folks so they're in the loop on what's happening). We also met with Mario REal in Leon on Sunday July 26 and gave him a check from STudents for the purchase of the 7 manzanas in front of and to the east of the Alberto Berrias school. Previously we met with the Nicaraguan not for profit group Asociacion San Isidro which Conchita is a board member of. They agreed to "own" the land so none of us has to, or Friends doesn't have to, or the comite doesn't have to, and that they'd use it for the purposes we outlined which are: baseball field, park, gardens, comedor, classroom additions, etc. in the future. This is the Field of Dreams project and nothing can happen until we get the land purchased. There is alot I could say here, but I'm tired of writing and you're probably tired of reading if you've read this far. Suffice it to say that all the paperwork for the preparation of the deed is not completed, but it ought to be soon, so when Conchita and her attorney are satisfied with the papers, title search, etc, then mario will get his check and the club will have bought a beautiful parcel of prime flat land for wonderful future community use. Very nice project. Reminder that the first Thursday in August is coming, August 6, and we'll be having our regular monthly meeting. Also, On WEd. Aug. 5 I'm giving a talk at Eddie Bergman's Miracle Corners of the World two week long youth retreat where 45 teens and 35 adults have been retreating/doing wonderful things for the past two weeks. It's in the City, at NYU. Shari has agreed to help me with this hour long presentation. Also one of the NYC teachers we met this week in Nica will be home by then and wants to attend. I think some students from SF60k may want to attend too. Eddie's terrific (Npt. HS/SF60000 class of 1999) and so is his group. Be well. PW *** You can unsubscribe from this list by sending an email to fsf60k-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. An archive of messages is available at //www.freelists.org/archives/fsf60k. FAQ'are available at //www.freelists.org/help/faq.html***