greetings spuds, i am scragz from san diego. i am a relative newcomer to electronic musical composition and tools. i have been using fruity for about a year. what i usually do is use it at the beginning of the song creating process to create the drums and then i can toy around with chord progressions and melodies with the piano roll. then i export each loop seperately (drums, cymbals, synths) and put them in acid (haven't bothered to learn any of the better programs yet) to record synth, guitar, and vocals then mix everything down. my only synth (nord lead 2) is currently broken, however, so i have been using the vsti's more often now. i still have alot to learn and i plan to figure out the fruity formula pretty soon which will most likely recquire some help from you all. happy fruitin' scragz _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com