[fruityloops] Re: DXi wrapper

  • From: Andrew Ebling <andyebling@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: fruityloops@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: 10 Dec 2002 10:55:49 +0000

Hi Mark,

On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 10:24, mark griffin wrote:
> hello all, i have two questions, what is the best DXi wrapper for fruity. i 
> want to use it inside sonar2XL. 

I'm afraid I don't have much experience of these wrappers.  Lack of
native VST/VSTi support is one thing that puts me off sonar.

Can anyone else help out here?

> the second question is not exactly about 
> fruity but here goes; myself and a friend are playing a chillout set live at 
> a party in a couple of weeks. we have jammed together a few times and all 
> has gone well, as it's chill out it's easy to blend sweeps and drones.

Wow, sounds cool!  I hope future versions of fruity will be even more
conducive to this sort of thing... ;-)

> i have used fruity for about five years and my setup has always been 
> audio,(m-audio delta 410),recently i purchased a 2x2 usb midi interface to 
> connect my 309 and peavey studiomix and there has been no problems.
> so here's the question, we both have identical pc s except my friend is 
> running the delta 1010 soundcard i want to be able to build loops in fruity 
> on the fly, (inside sonar) and keep this in time with my 309 and more 
> importantly with what my friend is doing on his pc.
> the delta 1010 is a dedicated audio and midi card so i think we should use 
> this as the master, but can a usb midi interface keep my whole system 
> synced?
> i am new to midi so a childlike explanation would really be helpful.

This is quite a complex setup.  I suggest you take the following

- set your friends PC up to transmit MIDI clock from fruityloops (it
will act as the master).
- set sonar up on your PC to sync to an external MIDI clock on the
appropriate port (i.e. the one that has the connection to your friends
- insert fruity as a VSTi inside a wrapper inside sonar.

In theory, this should work, however I think you will be very lucky if
you get it to work reliably.  Getting fruity VSTi to run trouble-free
inside a VSTi compatible host can be tricky, using a DXi->VSTi wrapper
complicates things further, then add the complication of external sync
and you are really pushing the boundaries here!

An alternative might be to network the two PCs together, share a hard
drive between them and you work on loops to put on the shared drive
while your friend cues them up in fruityloops on his machine.  The main
problem here is that your friend will need to have some kind of sample
editor open to preview the loops, setup in such a way that it does not
output to the main mix output (otherwise you will get previews coming
out in the main mix).

Sorry I can't be any more help,


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