Hey All, Firstly, rendering to wav from fruity CAN be a little tricky, the options have a profound effect on the resulting wav file, especially for short loops with applied effects ! The cut and wrap options are very important tools for me. I find in order to recreate the sound im looking for i will often have to render 2 versions of the loop, 1 with the remainder cut, and 1 wrapped. Acidize ? Don't have a clue but use it obviously if i want to use the loop inacid. Now, a friend of mine recently asked my to remix a couple of floops he was wrote. The problem i have with this is that i cannot find the automation pattern, is there any way i can tell. ( apart from asking him ) he is away onholidays. Pattern 9 has always been my main automation pattern. Thanx Ian -- _______________________________________________ Get your premium email from http://www.ireland.com/email[1] --- Links --- 1 http://www.ireland.com/email