Yup! /usr/X11R6/share/icewm/themes/xp-new/default.theme It is another "preferences" file like in your $HOME/.icewm/preferences and takes precedence over that file. I just changed the font calls in that file in the same way and it works fine. Thanks, O. Jay Schlatter Technology Director Goodwill Industries of Michiana, Inc. <http://www.goodwill-ni.org/> (574) 472-7383 -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zimmerman [mailto:richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 2:40 PM To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: font size Coolness! At least you know where to go to change it now. I'll bet if you can find the definition files for the themes that you can change the default for the font size.... FWIW, Goose Jay Schlatter wrote: Found it! In the preferences file, I changed: TitleFontName="-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" To look like: TitleFontName="-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" and it works!........ until I change the theme..... O. Jay Schlatter Technology Director Goodwill Industries of Michiana, Inc. <http://www.goodwill-ni.org/> (574) 472-7383