Re: [foxboro] PIO Bus access error on "A" or "B"
- From: "Kevin Fitzgerrell" <fitzgerrell@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:59:23 +0900
One more thing - what software or quick fix level are you running in
your CP60s? There were some very important QFs that addressed
problems with the CP60 image - the one that fixed many of my CP60 PIO
Bus errors corrected deficiencies in the ladder logic handling. Are
you running ladder logic (PLB blocks) in any of your problem CP60s?
I see now you are using FBI10E and DCM10E so you have some remote
fieldbus. I commonly see local fieldbus terminators used in addition
to FBI or FBI10E - this results in over biasing the fieldbus segment
and can make the fieldbus more susceptible to noise.
Check carefully all your wiring and terminations as Russ has noted.
In my experience the 10base2 (Thinnet) cabling is particularly
sensitive. Terminators can be bad, crimp connectors can be faulty or
intermittent, and you should carefully follow the guidelines to avoid
ground loops in the CP60 cabling systems - follow carefully the
guidelines for isolated DIN rail with single connection to ground. Be
careful to use metric crimp connectors with metric cable or Imperial
connectors with Imperial cable if making 10base2 cables up on-site,
mixing metric with imperial can lead to cables that appear OK but with
intermittent performance.
Regards,
Kevin FitzGerrell
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Kevin Fitzgerrell
<fitzgerrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> PIO Bus is your fieldbus. If you are having PIO Bus errors and you
> have replaced the CP module, check your cabling, TCA, terminators,
> terminating resistors, etc... For your CP30s and 40s, do you have
> local or remote I/O? If you are using FBIs (which provide full
> fieldbus termination) do you also have terminators plugged in to the
> cellbus?
>
> Your counters are re-setable. Easiest for the overruns is from the
> Station block - access from the SELECT screen.
>
> Your total overruns are less important than the change. How many
> control and object manager overruns are you getting in a day? Week?
>
> PIOEGB is FBM good to bad transitions - may indicate noise on the
> fieldbus or a faulty FBM or slot.
> PP_NFD is bad peer to peer links - C:B.P references from one block
> that do not exist. You can use the dbvu tool to examine your
> checkpoint file and get details on these. These may be important to
> fix unless they are in unused logic.
> PIOE1R is no longer used - should not be incrementing.
> PIOEFT - fault tolerant output mismatches - your CPs are fault
> tolerant? This counter increments when (as I understand it) there is
> a difference between what the shadow CP would have written to the FBM
> and what the primary CP did write to the FBM.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kevin FitzGerrell
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:12 PM, <Ajit.S.Kumar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dear Experts,
>> We are facing few problems with our CP 30 ,40,60s ...It keeps failing with
>> PIO Bus access error on "A" or "B". After reboot it works fine for couple
>> of days / months and fails again.
>> Replacement of CP is still the same. No Improvement. Grounding has been
>> checked and ferrite installed for CP60. Noticed there is no problem of
>> repeated failure of CP60 with FCM10E, but DCM10E and FBI10E the failure
>> are seen escalating.
>> Secondly , Could anybody let me know why the Compound / Block and OB
>> Overruns are very high, and I would like to know what's
>> PIOE1R,PIOEFT,PIOEGB ..Is there a good manual where I could get the
>> information and Can these counters be reset.
>> Thanks in advance
>> Regards
>> Ajit kumar
>> Saudi aramco Mob. Refinery.
>>
>> IDLETM = Idle Time; CUMOVR = Cmpnd/Blk Overruns; OMOVRN = OM Overruns
>> PIOE1R = FB Retries; PIOEFT = Fault Tolerant Output mismatches
>> PIOEGB = Good->Bad FBM state changes; PP_NFD = Points NOT Found
>>
>> CPLBUG IDLETM CPLOAD CUMOVR OMOVRN PIOE1R PIOEFT PIOEGB PP_NFD
>>
>> A1CP01 47.3 19.60 52655 463152 0 48 609 0
>> A1CP02 79.4 7.00 0 0 0 0 0 0
>> A1CP03 84.8 6.80 0 305 0 0 0 0
>> A1CP04 68.2 11.80 66 16 0 0 0 0
>> A1CP05 84.3 4.60 1666732 8333 0 0 0 0
>> A2CP01 40.6 21.00 6262 20247 0 51 114 0
>> A2CP02 70.4 13.60 1 65580 0 0 0 0
>> A2CP03 69.3 13.60 0 28613 0 0 0 2
>> A2CP04 90.0 5.40 0 0 0 0 0 0
>> A2CP05 88.5 2.60 0 86 0 0 0 0
>> B1CP01 68.4 19.00 24988 112043 0 268 3253 0
>> B1CP02 76.8 6.00 0 26 0 0 0 0
>> B1CP03 70.1 11.20 1 11 0 0 0 0
>> B1CP04 73.4 21.80 5421794 87795 0 0 0 11
>> B1CP05 77.5 9.40 1666891 381400 0 0 0 0
>> B2CP01 81.7 12.40 3878 3294 0 53 236 1
>> S1CP01 79.4 18.20 2 502 0 5 0 0
>> S2CP01 64.4 32.00 4 382 0 7 69 0
>> S7CP01 70.2 25.80 8 623 0 8 19 0
>> S1CP03 82.9 86.00 650 388 0 698 22145 0
>> S1CP04 88.6 31.20 866 579 0 2 12274 0
>> S2CP04 91.8 25.00 0 945 0 0 2185 0
>> S3CP03 90.6 23.80 17 566 0 93 3299 0
>> S3CP04 92.4 24.00 2 319 0 24 4940 0
>> S3CP05 89.1 22.00 70 91 0 3726 5910 1
>> S4CP01 90.8 38.20 1575 2236 0 3 5296 0
>> S4CP03 93.0 16.40 4 2158 0 10 1802 0
>> S5CP02 85.4 50.00 668 302 0 4 2803 0
>> S5CP04 92.4 10.20 0 237 0 1 84 0
>> S5CP05 82.3 44.00 439 398 0 29 7315 0
>> S7CP03 90.0 20.80 0 411 0 0 1082 0
>> S8CP01 90.4 36.00 835 90 0 1 4262 0
>> S8CP02 84.0 78.60 776 207 0 1959 59147 0
>> S8CP03 86.2 62.00 92 145 0 305 7839 4
>> S8CP04 94.3 22.40 0 61 0 2 240 0
>> S8CP05 88.4 26.80 3 216 0 7 1100 0
>> S9CP02 86.1 66.00 2137 331 0 215664 25935 0
>> S9CP03 90.2 22.40 0 765 0 0 155 0
>> OMCP12 53.5 50.40 0 0 0 0 18 0
>> OMCP17 87.6 4.00 0 0 0 0 672 0
>> S1CP12 64.1 42.60 0 228 0 0 175 0
>> S2CP12 77.4 22.20 0 174 0 0 0 0
>> S2CP13 71.1 33.60 0 393 0 0 44 0
>> S3CP11 69.7 36.20 0 410 0 0 37 0
>> S3CP12 70.4 32.00 0 244 0 0 50 0
>> S3CP16 79.7 28.80 0 41 0 0 1346 0
>> S3CP17 80.6 28.00 0 48 0 0 78 0
>> S3CP18 80.2 28.00 0 31 0 0 127 0
>> S4CP12 75.9 28.40 0 1519 0 0 0 0
>> S5CP11 72.6 26.00 0 296 0 0 93 0
>> S5CP13 67.0 38.00 0 239 0 0 2 0
>> S6CP11 76.5 26.80 0 237 0 0 2061 0
>> S6CP12 71.1 32.00 0 142 0 0 104 0
>> S6CP13 81.1 19.00 0 221 0 0 4367 0
>> S6CP14 80.7 20.20 0 265 0 0 97 0
>> S6CP15 77.5 28.40 0 104 0 0 9335 0
>> S6CP16 82.9 20.00 0 35 0 0 4509 0
>> S6CP17 80.6 13.00 0 143 0 0 126 0
>> S6CP18 74.2 38.00 0 5 0 0 0 0
>> S7CP12 71.3 32.00 0 364 0 0 3 0
>> S9CP11 73.2 34.00 0 668 0 0 76 0
>>
>>
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