Re: [foxboro] PIDA Foxboroese ???s
- From: "Stapper, Hub" <hub.stapper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:18:07 -0400
Some 2 or 3 years ago I have given an in depth training on the features of the
PIDA block. The manual I wrote is attached and may be of assistance in the use
of the nay options of the PIDA block.
I would be happy to give the training, which takes about 4 days, in particular
when the training is given on Hawaii of Mallorca.
Kind regards, Hub Stapper
(hub.stapper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Consultant, IPS in The netherlands
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From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Fitzgerrell, Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:35 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] PIDA Foxboroese ???s
The Con01 (2100) course should cover a fair bit of the advanced features -
fbtune, pretuning and adaptive self tuning. Also, the PI(D)Tau modes for
internal deadtime modeling.
Regards,
Kevin
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From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Corey R Clingo
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:11 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] PIDA Foxboroese ???s
For that particular parameter, check out the PSS (product specification
sheet) on the PIDA block. It has some good info, some that isn't in the
block description books.
I agree, though, that some of I/A's best features go un- or underutilized
because of poor or lacking documentation, and no available training. I
have yet to use a PIDA to its full potential because I haven't had time to
sit down and play with it to see how the advanced features (self- and
adaptive tuning, mostly) behave, and that's the only way you are going to
know. There is no training class on it to my knowledge, and the docs do
not go very deep into application examples.
Corey Clingo
BASF Corp.
Larry Mantei <Larry.Mantei@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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[foxboro] PIDA Foxboroese ???s
We have been working on some PID and PIDA loops and the manual on these
blocks are somewhat marginal. They use what we like to call "Foxboroese".
Some of the Block descriptions are full of "Foxboroese", things that only
apply to Foxboro systems, commonly opposites of other DCS systems (or they
opposite of Foxboro) and cannot be Goggled or researched in any other way.
I would like to find some more info out on the interconnections on these
blocks and how it is all tied together. Is there a manual or book out on
these besides the Integrated Control Block Description Volumes? The one
that comes to mind is SPLLAG. Is this tied to the set point as a gain
before it gets to the loop or does the set point make it in and then it
takes effect, or may be something else ????
Thank You for Your Support
Larry Mantei
Process Contol
Fairbanks Gold Mining
PO Box 73726
Fairbanks, Alaska 99707-3726
(907) 488-4653 ext. 2306
larry.mantei@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:larry.mantei@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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