Re: [foxboro] PAS- Alarm Management
- From: "Gosselin, Patrick" <patrick.gosselin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 09:01:32 -0400
Pramod
The OPC connectivity is currently being used for State Based Alarming and Audit
and Enforce.
We use the icc driver task to role in changes decided upon following the
documentation and rationalization phase of an Alarm Management Project, or what
we call implementation phase.
The changes during implementation are, block descriptions, priorities, alarm
text, group assignments, alarm destinations and no logic changes or deletion's.
These are done manually by the customer and are typically not under the scope
of an Alarm Management Project.
Diego would be more then willing to field any additional questions.
Regards,
Patrick Gosselin, CTech
Senior System Service Representative
Invensys Systems Canada Inc.
1349-2 Kelly Lake Road
Sudbury, ON P3E 5P5
T - (705) 523 1331
C - (705) 690 1642
E - Patrick.Gosselin@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Http://www.iom.invensys.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Johnson, Alex P (IOM) [mailto:Alex.Johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 08:43 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [foxboro] PAS- Alarm Management
Re: Is the OPC method generally adopted by Invensys to make CP database
change?
I don't know the answer to your question. You might drop a line to Diego
Izarra. He does Alarm Management work for a living. diego.izarra@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Re: ICC API
That's reasonable for making changes and matching it with UPLOAD allows you to
check for changes. I don't know that PAS supports that, but it is something
that I would do.
Regards,
Alex Johnson
Invensys Operations Management
10900 Equity Drive
Houston, TX 77041
+1 713 329 8472 (desk)
+1 713 329 1600 (operator)
+1 713 329 1700 (Central Fax)
alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Pramod Kumar
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:34 PM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] PAS- Alarm Management
Thanks Alex.
I understand that Invensys also supplies Alarm Management System using PAS
systems. Is the OPC method generally adopted by Invensys to make CP database
change? In one of my earlier AMS projects (not with PAS), I used ICC driver
task to make bulk changes to CP.
Regards
Pramod
-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Johnson, Alex P (IOM)
Sent: 22/May/2012 3:06 PM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] PAS- Alarm Management
I spent some time with PAS working to ensure that their alarm management
software used AIM*OPC appropriately. Basically, the OM is slow for one-shot
gets of values and one-shot sets of values (a few (<10) per second).
We worked to minimize the number of one-shot gets by moving them to read lists.
To minimize this impact, I recommend that the AIM*OPC DA Server be run on the
AIM*Historian host machine since they will share OM lists though this may or
may not be helpful depending on the other tags being monitored.
So, you must consider the loading impact on the CPs. Older CPs may not have the
capacity to support this application; CP270s typically will not have issues,
but you need to check even in that case.
To determine the loading impact, you will need to work with PAS to determine
the increase in load. Loading factors include:
1) The number of parameters monitored using read lists
2) Update rate for the read lists
3) The number of parameters acquired using one-shot operations
4) Update rate for the one-shot operations
We have CP sizing spreadsheets that can be used to help model the impact based
on this data and they are available from the Global Client Support folks
(http://support.ips.invensys.com).
All in all, it's not whether or not their software works. The question is how
well does it work within the restrictions of an I/A Series system. You will
have this issue regardless of vendor so do your homework.
Regards,
Alex Johnson
Invensys Operations Management
10900 Equity Drive
Houston, TX 77041
+1 713 329 8472 (desk)
+1 713 329 1600 (operator)
+1 713 329 1700 (Central Fax)
alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Pramod Kumar
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:45 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [foxboro] PAS- Alarm Management
Hi list,
Any one tried AIM OPC to make changes in CP database. Alarm management vendor
PAS proposes to use this method to make CP database changes resulted after
alarm rationalization study.
Regards
Pramod
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