Re: [foxboro] OM lists

  • From: "Brown, Stanley" <stan.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:07:31 -0400


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Brown [mailto:stanb@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> duc.do@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:59 AM
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] OM lists
>
> Stan,
>
> Do the operators use DM from this AW to run the process and receiving
> alarms?

No, but..

It is used for remote DM access for management. We have recently changed this 
from a X based method to a VNC based method. I need to check and see if an AM 
is started for this session. I do not think it is, but if it is, then we might 
be suffering from the issue you mention.

>
> We experienced something like this, and traced the problem back to the
> alarm manager (AM) display being open and closed, as is the practice
> with our operators. It doesn't happen all the time, but many times when
> the AM display is X'ed out, it leaves an OM list of two objects. And
> these lists "orphan" lists hang around until the AW exhausts it limit
> of OM lists.
>
> Rebooting the AW does fix this problem as the OM table gets wiped
> clean. A less intrusive tactic involves searching for the orphan OM
> lists and close them out. Jeremy Milum wrote a C program to close the
> orphan lists. I stole it and a script file from him and modified to
> work for our site. I run this script about once a week. (I'll send you
> both off-list.)

That would be greatly appreciated.

>
> You can search the freelists.org archive for "orphan OM lists" for the
> discussion about this problem back in 2005.
>
> Duc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of stan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:42 AM
> To: Foxboro List
> Subject: [foxboro] OM lists
>
> WE had an instance where we ran out of OM lists last night. Foxboro TAC
> logged in and determined that the AW on this node was using too mangy,
> and
> we resolved the issue (for the moment) by rebooting this machine.
>
> However,, I am not convinced we have found the root cause on this. The
> configuration on this node has been stable for quite a while, and the
> last
> time the AW was rebooted was 150+ days ago, after an upgrade to 7.1.5
> software.
>
> We have run a variant of the checkit script from the Casandra site for
> a
> number of years, and it uses /usr/local/show_params to report on some
> OM
> statistics. Frankly I am not all that familiar with the output of this
> section of the report. Can someone tell me if these values are global
> to
> the node? If not, is there a script that I can run to get statistics
> for a
> specific station (AB integrator 30A in this case).
>
> Thanks for any suggestions as to forensics on this.
>
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