Re: [foxboro] More questions on the evolution from UNIX to Windows

Russ said, "If the model changes, chip, motherboard, 3rd party cards, 
conflicts can arise and stop I/A from running." 
I can vouch for that.  A video card was changed on our AW during system 
development and I/A quit working.
The problem was diagnosed and fixed, but I am little disappointed.  Back 
in the old PW-OE days, even though it looked like a PC, you had to have 
the correct hardware or XENIX and I/A wouldn't work.  Then Solaris was 
sold on the basis of being an open system and to a certain extent, that 
was true within the limitations of what had been checked out by Foxboro. 
Now, we've been sold Windoze under the guise that it uses off the shelf, 
readily available hardware, but based upon my experience (and what Russ 
has said), that's not the case.  It may say Dell on the box, and some of 
the parts may be available from Dell, but you take things into your own 
hands if you try to upgrade or repair without a Foxboro approved part.

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Here are some quick responses while at lunch:

CP's can only be ICC from their AW70 host.

WP's do not have access to the AW70 ICC.
After SysDef2.5 WP's are no longer valid stations on the Mesh.

Any standard Windows machine can remotely login to configure blocks if
you are using IACC (2nd ethernet)

With ICC you would use Remote Desktop from a standard windows machine
and take away the oprators screen while you performed that task.

Server2003 I/A box can supply a remote dm to your windows PC for ICC
session, one at a time without losing operator window.

Purchasing the same model Dell directly will not insure I/A operation.
Invensys qualifies a model with specific hardware, and that platform is
blessed. We get Dell assurance that they will deliver that platform per
our projected qty. If the model changes, chip, motherboard, 3rd party
cards, conflicts can arise and stop I/A from running. Ordering the same
model directly will probably have differnet internals than what has been
qualified.

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From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Joseph M. Riccardi
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:50 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [foxboro] More questions on the evolution from UNIX to Windows

Folks,
The questions continue...
*                My understanding is that unlike UNIX, only the "host" 
AW70 can
configure (using ICC) FCP270s, FBM233s (A-B PLC Gateway), etc. but the
existing UNIX AW/WP51s cannot; correct?  =

*                Do the WP70s have access to the AW70's control 
configurator;
like UNIX?  =

*                My understanding from Foxboro is that any standard 
Windows
workstation in our office can remotely log into the AW to configure
blocks, but only one at a time; correct?  How is this setup/enabled?
Can I assume that during one of these sessions, the normal
operator/engineering functions are not affected (a remote login session
is transparent to the local AW70 user; just like UNIX)?
We are trying to figure out how many and what type of workstations are
required to set up an engineering test bed.

Different subject...
*                Can we not purchase the same Dell workstations (nothing
special?) directly from Dell and have the Foxboro IA Series software
installed and supported by their Service organization; this obviously
excludes hardware issues.  What is your experience?  What are the risks?

We would appreciate some advice...

Joseph M. Riccardi
DCS Services - Industrial Process Control

Joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
"To give real service you must add something that cannot be bought or
measured with money; and that is sincerity and integrity." - Donald A.
Adams



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