Re: [foxboro] IEE
- From: "Johnson, Alex P (IOM)" <Alex.Johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:47:31 -0600
Re: Neil wrote - I believe a DCS with IEE still has CSA on it.
It does. CSA is used to ensure the uniqueness of compound names. It also
supports other configuration tools by providing a list of block names and
parameters.
Re: When you open a strategy, there is a very small window to see
the blocks which appear as graphical representations.
This is an interesting point.
The IEE really is easier to use with a dual monitor PC especially if the
monitors are large. On one system, they had dual heads with a diagonal of 43"
(IIRC) and that was very nice. :)
Re: Neil wrote - can get a graphic representation of your strategy if you
spend time to set it up and do all the necessary things. We do not do
it, it is too much work.
There are two cases to consider:
1) New controllers with new blocks
2) Existing controllers with migrated blocks
In the former case, the stuff that Neil refers to isn't very hard and it can
greatly reduce engineering time, i.e., spend some time planning your templates
and leverage that time many times over.
On existing controllers with migrated (moved) blocks, the issue is harder. If
the original blocks were built using FoxCAE or IACC, the LOOPID can be used to
group the blocks reasonably, but you still have to assign a strategy and that
is tedious.
If the orginal control blocks were ICC built, the LOOPID isn't set and that
does increase the effort.
Hope this helps.
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From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Neil Martin
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [foxboro] IEE
If you have not used IEE, be sure to use it before you buy it. Be sure to
configure some complicated strategies with it.
As of IEE version 1.2 Service Pack 1 the following is true:
1. On the left side of IEE you will browse for CP and strategy, but you
will have to open the strategy before you can see the blocks. At some
future rev, they are supposed to make it so that you can see the blocks
nested under the strategies on the left side.
2. When you open a strategy, there is a very small window to see the
blocks which appear as graphical representations. If there are very many
blocks in the strategy, you will have to pan around the window to find the
block you are wanting. There are some search routines that might make it
easier to find the block you are interested in.
3. At least so far, the strategies do not exist outside of IEE, all the
DCS knows is COMPOUND:BLOCK.
4. I believe a DCS with IEE still has CSA on it.
5. When building or editing a block in one strategy, there is no browse
feature to directly find and pick a parameter connection in a block within
another strategy. You can do this within a strategy.
6. You can get a graphic representation of your strategy if you spend
time to set it up and do all the necessary things. We do not do it, it is
too much work.
7. It does have a nice CALC block editor. Be sure to check to see if they
have the ability yet to print block parameter listings in an order that is
like ICC, as opposed to alphabetical. You can print the CALC block steps.
Neil Martin
Huntsman Performance Chemicals
Conroe & Dayton , TX.
Conroe ph) 936-760-6205
Dayton ph) 936-257-4212
pager) 936-522-0052
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Is anyone using IEE? If so, can I ask a question?
Our understanding is thta this tool can provide some graphical
documentation of our configurations, if we use it from the beginning of a
design.
Given this, we would need to use it's strategies et all right. So, this
ultimately gets "compiled" down to something the CP's can understand. So,
if I use FoxSelect to look at these, where do the names for the CPB's come
from?
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