Re: [foxboro] "GDEV" or "VLV,MOVLV,MTR" or "CALC" - Discrete control engineering advice ?
- From: "Michael Kessler" <mkessler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:58:00 -0400
Chuck,
Another work around is to drive PLB ladder logic as follows.
GDEV Start
Request (COUT_1)
--||-------------------------------------------------(TON) 7s
Running GDEV Start
Feedback Request (COUT_1)
--||------.---------||-------------------------------(Start Motor)
|
Timer DN |
--|/|-----.
If a motor trips, the (Start Motor) contact will drop out and the mismatch
on the GDEV will indicate an alarm. The advantage is that the alarm remains
active until cleared by the operator. The operator must stop the motor
before it can be re-started.
mk
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> [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jones, Charles R.
> (Chuck)
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:01 PM
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> Subject: Re: [foxboro] "GDEV" or "VLV,MOVLV,MTR" or "CALC" - Discrete
> control engineering advice ?
>
>
> As previously stated, the GDEV block is very versatile and useful. We
> use GDEV blocks at every opportunity for all of the reasons mentioned in
> earlier posts. However, I remember a glaring weakness in an otherwise
> ideal block. Unlike a hardwired motor (or ladder logic), the GDEV will
> not remove the power request to the motor if the motor loses its
> feedback (auxiliary contacts). =20
>
> I have worked around this by tying the MMAIND (Mismatch Alarm Indicator)
> into the INTLCK parameter, thus forcing the GDEV into its Interlock mode
> (and over-riding either Manual or Auto modes) to drive the GDEV off. I
> tie the INTDSR (Interlock Desired State) back onto itself (so that its
> state cannot be changed) and give it the default value of OFF. Once the
> GDEV output is OFF, the desired state matches the feedback state so the
> GDEV is no longer in Mismatch Alarm and the GDEV passes out of the
> Interlock mode and back into the Manual mode in the OFF state.
>
> The additional connections are as follows:
> INTLCK =3D :Blockname.MMAIND
> INTDSR =3D :Blockname.INTDSR.0
>
> This solution assumes a few things, such as the assumption that the
> INTLCK parameter was otherwise not going to be used. The same
> assumption is made for the desired state of the Interlock, INTDSR. The
> most difficult consequence for us to live with is that the GDEV is left
> in the Manual mode. Most of the time, it has not been a problem.
>
> As always, "your mileage may vary". I am going from memory here, so
> will wish to verify my statements, test the results for yourself, etc.
>
> Chuck Jones
> Automation Technologist
> Tate & Lyle -- Lafayette Plant
> Office 765.477.5324 | Cell 765.586.5290
>
>
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