Re: [foxboro] Foxray or Integrity?
- From: dirk.pauwels@xxxxxxxxxx
- To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:33:21 +0200
Tom,
We're a small site, with a a small DCS budget. It's impossible for us to
follow all the" latest" IPS developments like Infusion etc....
We have a mesh system with P90 boothost, ZCP270's, CP60's and unix
stations. Our budget will probably allow us to change the unix boxes
sometime next year or so for P92's and that's it. So we're stuck with the
8.4.x for a number of years to come.
For us FoxRay was a good and affordable solution, I'm sure Limeware also
has an infusion solution, but you'll have to check that with them.
Rgds,
Dirk Pauwels - DCS/MOC coordinator
Engineering dept.
Hexion Specialty Chemicals
E mail: dirk.pauwels@xxxxxxxxxx
T. +32.(0)3.570.95.97
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Wrote
...
Fox IA's move to Windows was a hybrid, Windows with a nutcracker "Unix"
shell environment that allowed Foxboro to have a Windows offering without
having to move all of their applications to Windows native apps. In that
move, a lot of the functionality for remote access and applications was
lost as well as breaking a lot of the UNIX shell script functions that
users had optimized their systems on. There was assurances from Foxboro
that Unix, and even Solaris on the MESH would continue to be available. We
can now all see how that is going to work out. Now the list is split
about half and half with Unix and Windows users, and most of us are still
bemoaning the fact that the system is moving back to a more closed system,
much like the Video-Spec/MicroSpec system of old where you had to get 3rd
parties to extract data from the system in order to be able to document
the software applications and graphics embedded in the system.
If Foxboro planned to stay with Window 8.x and keep the remaining
utilities, then Foxray would be a viable long-term alternative, because
the hooks Foxray and other packages use to pull data from the Fox IA
system are still mostly intact.
But we can all see that the long term direction for Invensys control
systems is IEE which utilizes Wonderware's InSQL database as the
repository for all configuration and process data. This, again, is a
proprietary database with the configuration embedded in a way that users
can't USE it. It isn't really a secret and Alex can correct me if I am
wrong.
Regards,
Tom VandeWater
Control Conversions, Inc.
Kapolei, HI
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