Re: [foxboro] Foxray or Integrity?

ArchestrA is a set of tools and technologies used to build products.

IPS took ArchestrA and other WW technologies and developed four products
collectively known as the InFusion Enterprise Control System.

The InFusion ECS consists of:

1) InFusion View (HMI)
   WW's InTouch plus an IPS created InTouch application. Collectively,
   they are called InFusion View. Out of the box, InTouch doesn't do 
   much. The InFusion View application gives the basic framework
   (menus, detail displays, whatever) expected in the DCS market.
2) InFusion Historian (Historian)
   WW's InSQL without any significant changes, but used in MDAS mode
always.
3) InFusion Application Environment (Application Platform)
   WW's Industrial Application Server enhanced to handle some specific
   IPS needs.
4) InFusion Engineering Environment (Configuration Tool)
   WW's Integrated Development Environment extended to include support
   for I/A Series Controllers as well as the InFusion Application
   Environment (IAE) 

The IEE then is a configuration tool that can configure two "controller"
types:

1) The I/A Series CP270s (and soon older CPs)
2) The InFusion Application Environment

With this in mind, I'll try your questions:

Re: Does the Invensys IEE offering use Wonderware's InTouch as its HMI?
No. 

The IEE is a configuration tool like ICC, ICC Driver Task, FoxCAE, and
IACC.
It is not a primary human interface for operators. 

InTouch is a real-time HMI similar in purpose to FoxView in that it
supports plant operations not control system implementation.

As IEE grows, it will support configuration of InTouch within its scope,
but it does not use InTouch at all.


Re: If not, is the IEE HMI directly accessing data from the 
    Foxboro Object Manager in the same way the DM and Foxview do today?
DM/FV are primary operator interfaces and make direct OM calls to
achieve their purpose. 

Though it is not an operator interface, the IEE supports real-time,
animated loop diagrams as does IACC.

To provide this support, it does get its data from the OM.


Re: Or is there an API database that collects/stores real time values
from 
the object manager and then serves that data to the HMI and any other 
applications that need the real time info?

Okay, I'm getting the drift of your questions.

The real-time HMI is InFusion View; not the IEE.

InFusion View gets its data directly from the CP; there is no
centralized tag server in the InFusion ECS implementation of InTouch.
Rather, each workstation goes to the CP for its data independently.

Applications running in the same box with InFusion View can share data
with InFusion View, but applications in different boxes will have their
own data feeds.

Maybe this highly detailed picture will help:

CP270   -> MESH -> AW70
BP-> OM ->         OM -> IADAS -> IV
                               -> Other Apps

                -> AW70 / WP70
                   OM -> IADAS -> IV

Re: Is the the real-time process data, process historical data, and the 
control configuration data all stored in a relational SQL database?  Or 
are there multiple, non-related databases used for these purposes?

Real-time data resides in the I/A Series Object Manager.

Historical data resides in InFusion Historian. InFusion Historian - like
all other plant historians - uses flat files to store raw data and makes
it available for various users through SQL Server queries.

Configuration data is stored in itsown SQL Server database; it does not
share a database with InFusion Historian though the two applications
could share the same instance of SQL Server.

Does this help?


BTW, I'll be giving a lecture on Day 1 of the NA User's Conference on
"InFusion for the Installed Base." Guess what kinds of question, I'll be
covering.

In fact, if you have specific questions, send them to me.

September 20-24, 2009
2009 IPS North American Client Conference
Houston, TX
http://ips.invensys.com/en/aboutips/Pages/nacc2009.aspx






Regards,
 
Alex Johnson
Invensys Process Systems
10900 Equity Drive
Houston, TX 77041
+1 713 329 8472 (desk)
+1 713 329 1600 (operator)
+1 713 329 1944 (SSC Fax)
+1 713 329 1700 (Central Fax)
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Subject: Re: [foxboro] Foxray or Integrity?

Alex,

Excuse my ignorance.  Could you explain the IEE architecture in layman's

terms?

When I look at Wonderware's offerings I see use of the term Archestra, 
but not IEE.

Does the Invensys IEE offering use Wonderware's InTouch as its HMI?

If so, does it access data from an InSQL database?

If not, is the IEE HMI directly accessing data from the Foxboro Object 
manager in the same way the DM and Foxview do today?

Or is there an API database that collects/stores real time values from 
the object manager and then serves that data to the HMI and any other 
applications that need the real time info?

Is the the real-time process data, process historical data, and the 
control configuration data all stored in a relational SQL database?  Or 
are there multiple, non-related databases used for these purposes?

Regards,
Tom VandeWater
Control Conversions, Inc.
Kapolei, HI

Johnson, Alex P (IPS) wrote:
> Re: IEE which utilizes Wonderware's InSQL database
>
> Actually, the IEE uses a SQL Server database with its own schema to
hold
> its data. InSQL is not involved at all. 
>
> For performance reasons, the I/A Series data is currently stored in a
> database "blob" so standard SQL Server tables used by the IEE which
> makes its data unrecoverable without help.
>
> The "help" is a utility - DirectAccess - that can be used to perform
any
> action that the IEE can perform on an I/A Series controller. Think of
it
> as an updated ICC Driver Task.
>
> As you might expect, the DirectAccess commands are in XML format, but
> it's not really that cryptic and there is documentation available.
>
>
> So, I'd say that the IEE is open - at least as open as the ICC is.
>
>
> Regards,
>  
> Alex Johnson
> Invensys Process Systems
> 10900 Equity Drive
> Houston, TX 77041
> +1 713 329 8472 (desk)
> +1 713 329 1600 (operator)
> +1 713 329 1944 (SSC Fax)
> +1 713 329 1700 (Central Fax)
> alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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