Neil, I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying. So please let me set the stage: * The FV/FD media has always been freely available. (I'm never been able to find a package price so I'm forced to assume the media is free.) * The FV/DM license has always had a cost. * DM and FV licenses are interchangeable. If you own 5 DM licenses for a WP, you own the right to use a mix of up to 5 DM/FV executables on the WP. For example, If you want to run more than one instance of the DM (or FV) on a WP, you have to buy a license for each. One of the licenses is included in the cost of a WP. The other licenses are purchased separately using one of the following part numbers: J0177AA Additional DM/FoxView (51 Series) SW Lic (5 User) J0177AB Additional DM/FoxView (51 Series) SW Lic (10 User) J0177AC Additional DM/FoxView (51 Series) SW Lic (20 User) J0177AD Additional DM/FoxView (51 Series) SW Lic (50 User) J0177AE Additional DM/FoxView (51 Series) SW Lic(100 User) J0177AH Additional FoxView DM For The 70 Series As you can see under Solaris DM and FV licenses are the same thing. There is no DM for NT so that license is not offered. The number of licenses a given station is allowed to run is a configurable selection is SysDef. (A historical note: V3.3 of the I/A Series supported multiple DMs unofficially. The official support and license terms were part of V4.0 and later.) Given all of that, are you saying: 1) We are now charging for FV media? 2) We are charging for the upgrade from FV 99.2.1 ot FV8? 3) We are now charging to move from a DM to FV license? 4) You've been using "extra" DMs for free and now have to pay? 5) Something else entirely? Regards, Alex Johnson Invensys 10707 Haddington Houston, TX 77063 713.722.2859 (office) 713.722.2700 (switchboard) 713.932.0222 (fax) ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx> For the latest information on ArchestrA, go to www.invensys.com/Archestra.html <http://www.invensys.com/divisions/Archestra.html> . -----Original Message----- From: Neil Martin [SMTP:neil_martin@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:02 AM To: 'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [foxboro] Foxboro/Invensys pulls another good one. Many of you may know this already, but I just found out something ridiculous about Foxview/FoxDraw for Unix and V6.4 software. FoxView/FoxDraw V8 is the only version of FoxView/FoxDraw that has been tested with V6.4 I/A software. But, starting with Version 8, FoxView/FoxDraw for the I/A system is no longer free - you will need a license for each DM and Remote DM you are going to be able to run. List cost is something like $6000 for 10 licenses and $11,700 for 20 licenses. If you are unhappy with this, be sure to express it. Foxboro could have at least said that FoxView/FoxDraw V99.2.1 is fully supported for use with V6.4 I/A software. I for one am not going to pay for FV/FD V8, either V99.2.1 will work "good enough" or we will have to stay at V6.3 software (or use Display Manger). Neil Martin Huntsman Corporation 7114 North Lamar Blvd Austin, TX. 78752 ph) 512-483-0119 _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave