Re: [foxboro] FoxAnalyst

Isn't Fox Explorer for PCs only?  I was looking for better trends to use on 
the control system for operators and maintenance.

DE


>From: "Chris Kimball" <CKimball@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <Tim.C.Lowell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [foxboro] FoxAnalyst
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:35:06 -0700
>
>Have you considered Fox Explorer? It is part of the AIM * suite.
>
> >>> Tim.C.Lowell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/26/03 06:30AM >>>
>Darren,
>
>We looked at FoxAnalyst, and were even sold one license, but we were
>not
>happy with it.  The biggest drawback that we saw was that it is
>completely
>separate from FoxView.  You can't associate a FoxAnalyst trend with a
>FoxView display, or click on a FoxView button and generate a
>FoxAnalyst
>trend.  There are no command line arguments or any kind of API embedded
>into
>the FoxAnalyst application.  Essentially, you run FoxAnalyst in the
>background or on a separate screen, and create trend files in advance
>to
>trend whatever you want to trend.  This is not very helpful if you want
>to
>look at something "on the fly", or add something quickly to an
>existing
>trend.  You can't even use the right click feature in FoxView to select
>a
>point and dump it on a trend the way you can with existing FoxView
>tends.
>The console guys here played with it for a while, and they couldn't
>figure
>out how to use it in any kind of practical way.  You had to know what
>you
>wanted to trend in advance, and have an engineer or savvy operator
>type
>build a trend file to accommodate that need.  Then you had to able to
>navigate the file structure and locate the appropriate trend file when
>you
>wanted to look at it.  This isn't very good during emergencies or when
>you
>are troubleshooting problems.
>
>The big advantage of FoxAnalyst over the existing trend faceplates is
>that
>you can put as many as 16 trend lines on a trend, as far as I can
>remember.
>There are also some PI-like ways to manipulate the trends, like zoom,
>etc.
>that the FoxView trends don't have.
>
>In general, we found FoxAnalyst clumsy to use and not as integrated
>into
>FoxView as we would have liked.  The lack of an API or even command
>line
>arguments was a big problem, since we couldn't use FoxView commands to
>automatically populate the FoxAnalyst trends.  You may have a more
>computer-savvy group of console guys or not be as concerned with
>emergency
>operations as we are, so your results might be better.  You can
>probably get
>a demo version before having to buy a license.
>
>Tim Lowell
>Control Systems Engineer
>ConocoPhillips, Trainer Refinery
>Phone:         610-364-8362
>Fax:   610-364-8211
>Tim.C.Lowell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Darren Edwards [SMTP:darrenedwards626@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>       Sent:   Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:05 AM
>       To:     foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Subject:        [foxboro] FoxAnalyst
>
>       Hello:
>
>       Not everyone is satisfied with the appearance and configuration
>of
>the basic
>       trends that come with the FoxView libraries.  I understand
>Foxboro
>sells a
>       product, FoxAnalyst, that gets installed on the system as a
>separate
>
>       software package.  Are FoxAnalyst trends any better, and does
>Foxboro have
>       any other trending packages or other ways to trend process data
>for
>plant
>       operators besides FV and FA?
>
>       Thanks,
>
>       Darren Edwards
>
>
>
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