ATSs are not an NCNI replacement and they cost a lot more. However, they can be used to move segments currently on a V7.x switch to the Mesh network. I suspect for most customers that that would be more expensive than just retaining the V7 configuration, but we'd be happy to have you do it. Regards, Alex Johnson Invensys Systems, Inc. 10707 Haddington Houston, TX 77063 +1 713 722 2859 (voice) +1 713 932 0222 (fax) +1 713 722 2700 (switchboard) alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corey R Clingo Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 8:56 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] FW: FW: More future direction questions. "ATS's do not swapout for NCNI's that are uses as Nodebus Extenders or to directly connect an 51G,F, or XP to a legacy node." Do you mean you can't use them in a back-to-back configuration as you can with NCNIs? (Then again, why would you want to?) In my example, the NCNIs that are there replaced some NBEs, but we added some V7 AWs/WPs as well, so we connected everything to switches. Alex just responded that I _could_ replace these NCNIs with ATSs. Corey Clingo BASF Corp. "Boulay, Russ" <russ.boulay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/14/2005 07:17 AM Please respond to foxboro To: "'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" cc: Subject: Re: [foxboro] FW: FW: More future direction questions. -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin FitzGerrell Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:22 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] FW: FW: More future direction questions. Corey, In your small system example, I can't see any reason not to do as you've described, subject to the Foxboro license/software costs of upgrading your V7.x boxes to V8.x boxes. I intend to work towards a system with ATS modules in all the legacy segments connecting directly to V8.x switches, but I'm looking at the scenarios discussed in the last couple days as a simpler first step. I've got 3 seperate networks with a total of 5 pairs of switches and about 17 segments with NCNIs. My current plan is to put in a V8 host with three sets of gateway ATS modules to connect the three individual networks together. Then (as shut schedules permit) upgrade F and XP boxes to V8 (network cards, software, license), replace NCNIs with ATSs and bring the switches to V8. In conjunction with this we'll look at eliminating some segments by upgrading CPs and gateways to CP270s with FDSI FBMs. Some cost related concerns include: V7 -> V8 costs for an AW or WP, I understand this will require network card(s) upgrade, but I don't know how much the software/license cost will be. Given that the license costs much more than the hardware now, I expect I may be shocked at the price to bring my V7.x Solaris workstations to V8.x NCNI -> ATS -- I've been told there will be an advantage upgrade for CLAN and/or NCNI modules, but I don't know how much I will end up paying for an ATS module under this program. Regards, Kevin FitzGerrell Carter Holt Harvey, Ltd. +64 27 460 9994 > _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: http://www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: http://www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave