A word of caution about textedit. Opening a file with the read_only = parameter applies only to that file! If an operator opens another file = from the textedit menu that file will be read/write. Since by default = they are running as root, this is very dangerous. Having said that, we = do use textedit to display documents (like interlock lists etc) to the = operators but I had to secure the file access as follows: When the document is requested via the FoxView menu a script is run that = su's to a dedicated user ID that is configured to use the rksh, = restricted shell. Under this ID and shell the operator only has access = to the home directory where the data files reside. This is not fool = proof in that the operator can modify any of the data files in this one = directory but at least cannot get to other critical system files. Terry J. Deo Process Control Systems Engineer Infineum USA L.P. Bayway Chemical Plant Phone: 908-474-6179 Fax: 908-474-7609 =20 -----Original Message----- From: wcricker [mailto:wcricker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: October 11, 2002 11:39 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Documents A couple of thoughts on .... - Acrobat file creation is done with some pricey software. They give away the reader to market the creation software. - I like the Netscape idea; document management people like the fact that that it can't modify files which could then be printed, it is an interface everybody knows, commercial work processors already have functions to convert to HTML, installation is not too difficult, and the operator can't browse to the world unless the AW/WP is modified with 2nd e-net port, DNS, DNS servers, and all that, file sources can be on any system on the network (like a standard PC out there somewhere), it shows the same stuff on and PC boxes, it is easy to call up from DB or FoxView, etc. Also, this can handle some of the PI kind of stuff. It can be used to mix other vendor's data screens with IA on a single console. - Text Editor ; '/usr/openwin/bin/textedit -read_only ... ' works pretty well, but also gives bored operators the ability to 'open' and view anything on the system. (doesnt cause problems, per se, just questions.) (can the 'open' be shut off?). Also, the content of the file can be modified and printed, which could be a major headache to Doc Management folks. - The DM/FoxView 'read file' stuff requires that you convert your text files to "Blocked Text", that is every record must be the same length, padded out with spaces, and no 'CR/LF' line termination. You have to create a display object for each and every line on the screen, and it can be tough to get them all to look good when you scroll through the file. Also, of course, you can't mix graphic images in any generic screen very easily. It is, however, in the same window as the DM/FV graphic, and is the most secure. William C. Ricker FeedForward, Inc. Marietta, GA, USA wcricker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 770-426-4422 > >Here are the possibilities that come to mind: > >Adobe Acrobat reader. .... > >You might also investigate a Web browser. .... > >text editor, preferably in some kind of read-only mode..... > >All of the above, unfortunately, have the disadvantage that they are >separate windows that can occlude your DM/FV window, and may not work = at >all in full-screen mode. > >The "read file" function in DM/FV. I haven't played with this myself, = so >cannot comment on its complexity. > >Corey Clingo >BASF Corp. > |---------+----------------------------> | | "Stear, Bo" | | | <stear@xxxxxxx> | | | Sent by: | | | foxboro-bounce@fr| | | eelists.org | | | | | | | | | 10/11/2002 08:58 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | foxboro | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- ----------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "Foxboro Mail Forum (E-mail)" | | cc: | | Subject: [foxboro] Documents | >------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- ----------------------------------------------------| What, if any, are the best methods to give access to documents such as SOP's to operators from the Foxboro Workstation screens? Their simple request is to be able to punch a button on a display and have the SOP appear on the screen. 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