An additional benefit from using NetSight is that you can use it to collect SNMP data from the switches and e-mail it if required.=20 This is especially useful if you have redundant power installed for your switches as at the moment you have no way of knowing if one of them has failed because the status of the power supplied to the switches is not monitored by Sysmon or by supplied contacts to generate alarms. You can configure your switches, V7 and V8, to send this and other information about the switches to your NetSight installation for analysis and/or action by your teams.=20 Of course the caveat on this is that the functionality will depend on the models of switches used. Regards Ian Sweetman BP Oil Refinery (Bulwer Island) -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Landry, Dwayne Sent: Saturday, 15 September 2007 12:00 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Relationship Manager At PPG we are using both DRM and NetSight. I will try and answer the questions you have and have included=20 For you via BCC with the documents we have from Foxboro on DRM. DRM basically is a system used to monitor the resources of your I/A system and allow TAC to remotely=20 Connect to diagnose issues. It also has some alarming features that will highlight issues like overloaded CPs, Low Disk space, Core files, Low Params, OM connections, etc...., etc.... . Data can be sent automatically to TAC=20 Where they can filter and highlight potential problems and they can notify you of the immanent danger. > Question: what is DRM going to tell me that I can't already learn from > other tools like SYSMON, Station detail, or other scripts and tools? > Depending on the functionality of your other scripts and tools you may not=20 Gain any more information but it will put the information in a box that you=20 Don't have to support and probably put your data in a single more accessible format. When you upgrade YOU won't have to rewrite your scripts to work on the new system! > > Question: will I be able to do packet analysis with DRM? If I have high > traffic in a node will I be able to tell who it's coming from and what > it is? Will it resolve MAC addresses into letterbugs and indicate what > type of traffic I'm looking at? > From what I have seen I don't believe you will be able to do packet analysis with DRM. Traffic? No I don't see where the traffic for MESH or Nodebus is available. We have only had DRM for a short period of time so if someone knows different please speak up.=20 This box sits on Your second Ethernet network and any data it receives comes from scripts running on your AW/WPs. > > Question: can DRM actually be used to solve some of the on going > problems on my system such as:=3D20 > (1) Station islanding at V6.5.3 =3D20 > (2) Failure to pass nodebus cable test in node with NCNIs =3D20 > (3) Intermittent FCM100 failure and recovery on V8.2 system=3D20 > (4) Intermittent PIO bus errors on CP60 fieldbus=3D20 > (5) Apparent network storm on V8.2 system > With a remote login from TAC you will be able to use DRM to solve some of your=20 Ongoing issues listed above. Connectivity to your Windows boxes is done via an app called NetOp which appears to work=20 Like PcAnywhere, and Windows Networking. Connectivity to your Unix Boxes is via some type of X-Windows, FTP and Telnet. > > Question: is DRM mainly focused on CBLAN/nodebus systems? The reason I > ask is I know there is a product called NetSight from Enterasys that > allows monitoring of mesh network traffic and switches. Would our > maintenance dollars be better spent on this product? DRM covers MESH and CBLAN based systems. NetSight is a Network monitoring, administration tool for your Enterasys network. Our uses of the product include monitoring, diagnostics, firmware updates, configuration backup and rollout of our Enterasys switches and have basically little to do with Foxboro devices on the network. It gives you a window into the realtime architecture of your network showing traffic, connectivity, link status, speed, spanning tree, root, backup root, alternate paths, etc... DRM and Netsight are two entirely different systems. Netsight cannot be used for anything DRM does and Vice Versus. Where would your money be better spent? Do you already have a Foxwatch contract? If so then you may be already entitled to DRM at no additional cost. As for as Netsight you can do most of these functions with SYSMON, Telnet via Serial Cable and Ethernet, Internet Explorer, Lan Analyzer. Hope this helps, Dwayne Landry PPG Industries Inc. =20 -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Fitzgerrell Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:25 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Relationship Manager While I can't contribute any answers here, I'd also be very interested in hearing from those who are using DRM and/or NetSight. Regards, Kevin FitzGerrell On 9/13/07, dave.caldwell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <dave.caldwell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > All Knowing List, > > I work on a system where Foxwatch hasn't actively been used for years. > The folks here are a pretty independent bunch, and have been extremely > successful at troubleshooting system problems with the resources of the > CSC, the list, TAC, and their own initiative. > > Recently, we were offered the Device Relationship Manager (DRM) as part > of our renewed maintenance agreement. > > Question: what is DRM going to tell me that I can't already learn from > other tools like SYSMON, Station detail, or other scripts and tools? > > Question: will I be able to do packet analysis with DRM? If I have high > traffic in a node will I be able to tell who it's coming from and what > it is? Will it resolve MAC addresses into letterbugs and indicate what > type of traffic I'm looking at? > > Question: can DRM actually be used to solve some of the on going > problems on my system such as:=3D20 > (1) Station islanding at V6.5.3 =3D20 > (2) Failure to pass nodebus cable test in node with NCNIs =3D20 > (3) Intermittent FCM100 failure and recovery on V8.2 system=3D20 > (4) Intermittent PIO bus errors on CP60 fieldbus=3D20 > (5) Apparent network storm on V8.2 system > > Question: is DRM mainly focused on CBLAN/nodebus systems? The reason I > ask is I know there is a product called NetSight from Enterasys that > allows monitoring of mesh network traffic and switches. Would our > maintenance dollars be better spent on this product? > > Looking Forward to Hearing From You, > Dave =20 =20 _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). 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