Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path

Can't speak for everyone, but I'd love to hear about what you like about I/A
Series vs. Advant.


Regards,

Alex Johnson
Invensys
10707 Haddington
Houston, TX 77063
713.722.2859 (office)
713.722.2700 (switchboard)
713.932.0222 (fax)
ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx> 


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   MUGARTET@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [SMTP:MUGARTET@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
        Sent:   Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:07 AM
        To:     foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject:        Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path


        I think my question was misunderstood: on the I/A boxes (all 51D's
in =
        our
        case) we are using DMCplus Bridge. We use GCS on the "office" WIN2K
=
        machines
        for control engineers, normally for remote troubleshooting. My
problem =
        is
        that I got GCS to work for the DMC's we have installed on ABB Advant
=
        system
        but not for the I/A machines. As I see it now, it is just a problem
of
        configuration, since everybody else seems to be using it with DMC's
=
        running
        on I/A. That is why I was asking for advice on how to configure the
=
        GCS.
        Sorry for the misunderstanding.
        By the way, and just for the record, I prefer I/A by far and for a
lot =
        of
        good reasons over ABB's Advant...
        Regards.

        Mart=EDn R. Ugarte
        Control Avanzado y Sistemas
        Refiner=EDa La Plata - RepsolYPF
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        7 +54-221-4298310 ext. 28033
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        -----Mensaje original-----
        De: Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) [mailto:ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx]
        Enviado el: Mi=E9rcoles, 25 de Septiembre de 2002 11:50 a.m.
        Para: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Asunto: Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path



        Re: I am not sure if ApsenTech makes a Unix version of GCS.

        The DMCplus Bridge (Solaris only at this point) exists in part
because =
        GCS
        does not support Solaris.


        Regards,

        Alex Johnson
        Invensys
        10707 Haddington
        Houston, TX 77063
        713.722.2859 (office)
        713.722.2700 (switchboard)
        713.932.0222 (fax)
        ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>=20


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Loupe, Rory (RJ) [SMTP:RJLoupe@xxxxxxx]
                Sent:   Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:02 AM
                To:     'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
                Subject:        Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration
path


                We only have the Windows version of GCS and it is installed
on WIN98
                systems.  All of our I/A WPs are 50 series Unix boxes.  I am
not
        sure if
                ApsenTech makes a Unix version of GCS.  If the Windows
version of
        GCS can be
                installed on an NT system then there is no reason this would
not
        work on a
                WP70.  The control engineers are the only ones using GCS
from our
        Windows
                "business" workstation.

                Rory

                -----Original Message-----
                From: MUGARTET@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:MUGARTET@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
                Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:12 AM
                To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path



                Rory,

                Have you been able to use GCS Opcon on I/A platform? If so,
can you
        give me
                guidelines on how to do it. I thought it was not possible,
or at
        least that
                was what I understood from the documentation...

                Martin

                -----Mensaje original-----
                De: Loupe, Rory (RJ) [mailto:RJLoupe@xxxxxxx]
                Enviado el: Martes, 24 de Septiembre de 2002 11:41 a.m.
                Para: 'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
                Asunto: Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path



                ApsenTech sells a CIMIO for Foxboro I/A interface.  It uses
the
        local FoxAPI
                on the AW, therefore there is nothing additional to purchase
from
        Foxboro.
                This would allow you to read and write tags between a CIMIO
device
        (DMCPlus,
                IP21, RTO, etc...) and I/A. So, the controllers could be
built and
        run on
                the NT box.

                Now the trick is the operator interface because you can no
longer
        use DMC
                bridge graphics.  There are a few options as I see it.  1.
Create
        the
                graphics on I/A (maybe using reusable displays for similar
        controllers)  2.
                Create the graphics with ApsenTech Process Explorer (will
require a
        PC for
                each operator console)  3. Use AspenTech Web Viewer for
DMCPlus
        (requires a
                separate NT box and PC for each operator console with MS IE)
4.
        Use
                ApsenTech legacy GCS OpCon (Yuck!)

                I prefer option 1 if you have the time or option 3 if you
have the
                $$$$$$$$$!

                Rory

                -----Original Message-----
                From: GopanNair@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:GopanNair@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
                Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:31 AM
                To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path



                We currently run DMCplus 1.11 on Foxboro I/A Ver 4.3 on
AW51
        series
                stations.  While exploring the
                upgrade strategies, we came to know that Foxboro has
migrated the
        DMC
                applications to Connoisseur ,
                whereas Aspentech has their latest DMC plus 4.x

                This latest DMC engine runs on Windows NT platform , which
could
        not be
                integrated to  I/A  Nodebus.
                The possible workaround is to have an  AW on the Nodebus to
Interact
        with
                the NT machine.  The AW
                on the Nodebus will have to act as the DMC bridge running
AOS and
        API,
                which will also be hosting the
                operator graphics on the WP's on the Nodebus.   In this
setup, one
        needs to
                build the models on the
                off-line NT machine and manually transfer the controller
files to
        the AW .

                We are looking at a full-fledged  solution  using on-line
DMCplus
                Controllers .
                Your comments are welcome.

                ________________
                Thanks & Regards,
                GOPAN.G.NAIR
                Senior Systems Engineer
                Saudi Aramco-Mobil Refinery
                Yanbu,  Saudi Arabia
                ph: 966-4-3964738
                fax: 966-4-3964647
                email : GopanNair@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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