Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path

I think my question was misunderstood: on the I/A boxes (all 51D's in =
our
case) we are using DMCplus Bridge. We use GCS on the "office" WIN2K =
machines
for control engineers, normally for remote troubleshooting. My problem =
is
that I got GCS to work for the DMC's we have installed on ABB Advant =
system
but not for the I/A machines. As I see it now, it is just a problem of
configuration, since everybody else seems to be using it with DMC's =
running
on I/A. That is why I was asking for advice on how to configure the =
GCS.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
By the way, and just for the record, I prefer I/A by far and for a lot =
of
good reasons over ABB's Advant...
Regards.

Mart=EDn R. Ugarte
Control Avanzado y Sistemas
Refiner=EDa La Plata - RepsolYPF
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) [mailto:ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Enviado el: Mi=E9rcoles, 25 de Septiembre de 2002 11:50 a.m.
Para: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Asunto: Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path



Re: I am not sure if ApsenTech makes a Unix version of GCS.

The DMCplus Bridge (Solaris only at this point) exists in part because =
GCS
does not support Solaris.


Regards,

Alex Johnson
Invensys
10707 Haddington
Houston, TX 77063
713.722.2859 (office)
713.722.2700 (switchboard)
713.932.0222 (fax)
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        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Loupe, Rory (RJ) [SMTP:RJLoupe@xxxxxxx]
        Sent:   Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:02 AM
        To:     'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
        Subject:        Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path


        We only have the Windows version of GCS and it is installed on WIN98
        systems.  All of our I/A WPs are 50 series Unix boxes.  I am not
sure if
        ApsenTech makes a Unix version of GCS.  If the Windows version of
GCS can be
        installed on an NT system then there is no reason this would not
work on a
        WP70.  The control engineers are the only ones using GCS from our
Windows
        "business" workstation.

        Rory

        -----Original Message-----
        From: MUGARTET@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:MUGARTET@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
        Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:12 AM
        To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path



        Rory,

        Have you been able to use GCS Opcon on I/A platform? If so, can you
give me
        guidelines on how to do it. I thought it was not possible, or at
least that
        was what I understood from the documentation...

        Martin

        -----Mensaje original-----
        De: Loupe, Rory (RJ) [mailto:RJLoupe@xxxxxxx]
        Enviado el: Martes, 24 de Septiembre de 2002 11:41 a.m.
        Para: 'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
        Asunto: Re: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path



        ApsenTech sells a CIMIO for Foxboro I/A interface.  It uses the
local FoxAPI
        on the AW, therefore there is nothing additional to purchase from
Foxboro.
        This would allow you to read and write tags between a CIMIO device
(DMCPlus,
        IP21, RTO, etc...) and I/A. So, the controllers could be built and
run on
        the NT box.

        Now the trick is the operator interface because you can no longer
use DMC
        bridge graphics.  There are a few options as I see it.  1. Create
the
        graphics on I/A (maybe using reusable displays for similar
controllers)  2.
        Create the graphics with ApsenTech Process Explorer (will require a
PC for
        each operator console)  3. Use AspenTech Web Viewer for DMCPlus
(requires a
        separate NT box and PC for each operator console with MS IE)  4.
Use
        ApsenTech legacy GCS OpCon (Yuck!)

        I prefer option 1 if you have the time or option 3 if you have the
        $$$$$$$$$!

        Rory

        -----Original Message-----
        From: GopanNair@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:GopanNair@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
        Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:31 AM
        To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [foxboro] DMCplus platform, migration path



        We currently run DMCplus 1.11 on Foxboro I/A Ver 4.3 on   AW51
series
        stations.  While exploring the
        upgrade strategies, we came to know that Foxboro has migrated the
DMC
        applications to Connoisseur ,
        whereas Aspentech has their latest DMC plus 4.x

        This latest DMC engine runs on Windows NT platform , which could
not be
        integrated to  I/A  Nodebus.
        The possible workaround is to have an  AW on the Nodebus to Interact
with
        the NT machine.  The AW
        on the Nodebus will have to act as the DMC bridge running AOS and
API,
        which will also be hosting the
        operator graphics on the WP's on the Nodebus.   In this setup, one
needs to
        build the models on the
        off-line NT machine and manually transfer the controller files to
the AW .

        We are looking at a full-fledged  solution  using on-line DMCplus
        Controllers .
        Your comments are welcome.

        ________________
        Thanks & Regards,
        GOPAN.G.NAIR
        Senior Systems Engineer
        Saudi Aramco-Mobil Refinery
        Yanbu,  Saudi Arabia
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        fax: 966-4-3964647
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