Re: [foxboro] Automation of upload/checkpoint/save_all at sites with IACC, ICC, or IEE!!

Corey,

At the moment we're going both routes.  I want P91 Win2003 servers to
provide operator displays and P82 SOTM boxes as boot hosts and hosts
for legacy scripts and programs.  With the Mesh I don't need as many
boot hosts as I do currently on the CBLAN, so I really only need one
P82 for each major plant area.  I should be able to support these for
another 6-10 years with little problem (I'm advantage upgrading 51A
boxes to get my P82s), so the fact that Sun has EOL'd these is not a
huge issue.  And I will have the Windows in the network for anything
we can't do on the Suns.  As I noted, the biggest issue is Foxboro's
willingness to continue providing software updates for the SOTM
workstations.

Cheers,

Kevin FitzGerrell

On 10/31/08, Corey R Clingo <corey.clingo@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I find it highly interesting that you have gone the Solaris 10 route.
>  After looking at Sun EOL'ing their workstation line, and Foxboro telling
>  us that v8 will be the last SOTM version, I had resigned myself to using
>  Windows and working around the problems and restrictions, as I've done
>  with I/A in the past -- but it seems a larger task now.  And that's if we
>  end up going forward with I/A, which hasn't been decided yet.
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>  We've got 3 P91s and 2 P82s now.  I'm far happier with the P82s than
>  with the P91s.  I'm tentatively planning on ordering 5 more of the P82s
>  while Foxboro can still sell them to me.  I see from the Sun site
>  they've EOL'd the workstation line and only sell servers now, so I'm
>  struggling a bit with the idea of buying new EOL'd workstations, but I
>  do like these.  It's a little sad that Foxboro's actually implemented
>  almost all of what I wanted in an AW just before they've told me I won't
>  be able to get them anymore.
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>  The Solaris guys look at the file structure and implementation and just
>  shake their heads at what's been done by Foxboro, but for me it works
>  well.  The P82s are a lot more secure out of the box than the older 51
>  series, but I've made ours work just like the older boxes for now.
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>  I'd like to know when Foxboro will be releasing the 8.4.x improvements
>  for Solaris 10 hosts.  That will have a big effect on whether I order
>  more boxes or not.  I like the Solaris boxes as boot hosts, but I also
>  like the CP improvements introduced in 8.4.  We've already shifted ATS
>  hosting to the P91s for the improvements under 8.4.
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>  Solaris 10 pros:
>  All of the Solaris stuff still works
>  rmount still works
>  There is an agent for our standard MIS network backup solution
>  ICC works between Solaris hosts (including across the ATS & CBLAN)
>  Fast and responsive
>  Surprisingly little new to learn, as Foxboro has made very little (no?)
>  use of new features
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>  Solaris 10 cons (mostly no surprises here):
>  Legacy historian went away
>  Legacy DM went away
>  Windows configurators can't be used
>  Sun has EOL'd the entire workstation line
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>  I'm considering adding SunPCi cards to my P82s to let me put the windows
>  configurators on the Sun hosts.  I'd stopped doing that with my 51
>  series boxes a while ago after it got complicated to support EOL'd
>  hardware and software.  I could probably just install rdesktop and rdp
>  to my P91s though.
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>  Regards,
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>  Kevin
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