Re: [foxboro] AIM* questions
- From: "George Bocancea" <GBocance@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:07:40 -0600
Corey,
AIM* can do what you are looking for.
We are using 4 AIM* historians on 4 different AWs (3 Solaris and 1 XP) on the
CLAN. AIM does not make a circular file like the legacy. You have to properly
setup archiving on each of these, as they fill up your /opt partition quite
fast. We have setup the archiving/deleting on these at about 180 day, depending
on AW51 box style. But these four AIM* are used by the operators for trending
and for the AHD. No more legacy needed.
On the BLAN we are using a Win2000 Server with another AIM* license collecting
through the 4 AWs instances on the 2nd ethernet. There is no failure between
this and the collectors. We can take the server down and when it comes up it
just transfer the missing data from the other 4 AIMs. The server is
off-platform and used for long term data retention (80 GB hard drive can hold
up to 4-5 years of about 4000 points history). On this server we are using the
Report Package that comes with a scheduler (Opalis Robot), and run daily,
weekly and monthly production reports that email automatically to accountants
for inventories, billing, management. Also we are using WISE software
(~Web-enabled Info System for Executives), where we are posting these reports,
and which has a Chart Tool that BLAN desktop users can use to access AIM* data
(static trending or excel-friendly data sheets). We wish AIM would have some
statistical analysis tool and an interface for desktop users, but I've heard
IPS is releasing another historian under the "ConFusion" platform.
Hope this helps with your quest.
George Bocancea
Calgary - Canada
>>> corey.clingo@xxxxxxxx 10/23/2006 1:50 PM >>>
Hi all-knowing list,
I am investigating a migration to the AIM* historian from legacy. Legacy
works fine, and I normally would not change anything, but we are averaging
about one new "initiative" a month that requires some sort of data
collection from the DCS, some of it at relatively high frequencies, and of
varying types (point values as well as alarm and OAJ events).
My primary goal in all this is to establish a "buffer" box that can supply
data to any external application(s) that will tolerate changes in those
applications' collection characteristics without increasing system
loading. I currently am running two Solaris AWs, each with legacy
historians; they were redundant at one time but we exceeded the 4000-point
limit and had to split them. I am envisioning something like the
following:
|------------| |-----------|
| AW | | AW |
| with hist. | | with hist.|
| (box 1) | | (box 2) |
|------------| |-----------|
| |
| (2nd ethernets) |
---------| |-----------
| |
| |
|------------|
| Windows PC |
| with hist. |
| (box 3) |
|------------|
|
|
External
apps
Box 1 and Box 2 would be running redundant AIM* instances supplying data
to the system for operator functions, and to Box 3. Box 3 would collect
from Box 1's and Box 2's historians (not the CPs directly), with the
capability to fail over between them (for when we back up an AW) or at
least allow manual switching, as well as reconstructing the data from Box
1 and/or Box 2 if Box 3 fails or loses connection totally. External apps
would collect from Box 3; adding additional external collection would
slightly increase Box 1/2/3's loading, but not the CPs', as long as that
collection was asking for data already configured in Box 1's and Box 2's
historians.
So my questions are:
1) Will AIM* do what I want here? Can it collect from another instance
of itself? Can it fail over between collection sources, or at least allow
manual switching?
2) What other "server" interfaces does AIM* offer? I see legacy and
AIM*API and ODBC/OLE DB in the PSS, but what about OPC DA or HDA?
3) How does AIM* present alarm history data to the AHD on the system? Does
it still generate the almhist file, or does it use some other mechanism?
4) Any other ideas or thoughts on architecture or other software to do
this? Any actual experience anyone would like to share (with AIM* or
something else)?
Thanks,
Corey Clingo
BASF Corporation
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