Hello, When I setup the system to send ehlo - all the email will get stuck in queue and then goes NDR - If I set the system to send HELO instead, most email will go thru but then some will never arrive since the sender will get an NDR stating either TLS error or STARTTLS problem or relaying not allowed (The last happens when an external email is forwarding to a domain email). Any help would be appreciated. I have some sample NDRs if needed. Gabriel ________________________________ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Wall Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:11 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server I have BES, Goodlink and ActiveSync for Exchange 2003 running in my environment (I am the only admin for all three of these solutions for our World Wide Org and it can be a pain in the a$$ sometimes) If you have specific questions, let me know. There are many differences between the 3, but all have their pros and cons. If cost is a concern - go Active Sync I will let you know this - Goodlink will support many device types (windows mobile and palm OS devices) BES will support Blackberry devices and now has just released support for Treo 650 devices (with Cingular). ActiveSync has a windows format that will be more familiar to your users and cut down on support calls (and most third party apps are designing solutions for these devices over PalmOS and BBerry) Also, keep in mind this - You want to investigate security/virus solutions for whichever solution you go with. Right now, most vendors only support Windows Mobile devices. Although Goodlink now offers an in-house security/virus solution for mobile devices that you can purchas. Blackberry has no third party Virus solutions (that I can find). A couple of interesting security/virus vendors to look at while considering your choice is F-Secure, Mobile Armor and BlueFire. F-Secure provides Security options, but you have to purchase a McAfee or Norton solution to work with it for Virus' control. Then you have the whole issue of deploying updates over the wire vs. requiring the device to be tethered to the user's PC for updates. Long story short - you will have to do a lot of research to get the answers you seek, and depending on your environment, you will choose differently than others on this list... Well so long for now and let me know if you have any specific questions (including why I have all three in my environment) ________________________________ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:15 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server We are currently using Good Mobile Messaging. It offers a more stable mobile messaging platform and support for more devices, including all Palm & Pocket PC (Windows Mobile) devices. http://www.good.com/corp/index.php ________________________________ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave stevens Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:24 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Alternative to Blackberry Enterprise server Hi Guys, I understand that this is not strictly and exchange question, but need your help. I am currently look at alternatives to BES, and what the basic difference between Exchange OMA and BES are. I need as much concise information on this as possible, as I am going to read thru and recommend to the business. Thanks Dave ________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman1/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you.