Okay, that's all working now that we got the firewall rules sorted out, the second smtp vs on port 465 is accepting mail, but then it stops, when I go into the message tracking center, I see the following for all messages I've sent over the smtps connection: Date time stamp SMTP: Message Scheduled to Retry Categorization On 16 Nov 2005 at 21:58, Simon Butler wrote: > Why complicate matters with a second NIC. It can easily cope with > multiple IP addresses on the same NIC and makes it much easier to > manage. -- Harondel J. Sibble Sibble Computer Consulting Creating solutions for the small business and home computer user. help@xxxxxxxxx (use pgp keyid 0x3AD5C11D) http://www.pdscc.com (604) 739-3709 (voice/fax) (604) 686-2253 (pager)