Mark Shevill : Look on www.winnetmag.com but you need to have a registered account to read them. Thanks Mark, I have subscribed and had a look, unfortunately it is a broad based document, it assumes one understands the functionality of the component snap ins, I have had several documents regarding setting up a VPN on a 2000 server but none give explicit inputs, I am trying to set one up using ADSL ....... it's not as though I haven't tried ( I downed the server last weekend, not sure how and it took me all day Sunday to get it back up and running ) I have now set up a new lab scenario ( hate working Sunday's ) so I can re trace my steps but a step by step ( idiots ) guide would be of great help like the one I found for server 2003 ( that worked first time in the lab )........ Steve Alcock