I'd argue with your interpretation of this licensing spec. By defining a user account, giving it an address (which becomes a personally identifiable attribute related to the person in question), and forwarding mail that goes to that address, I believe you are indeed "using the server software." But you're right that they should speak with Microsoft to verify this. Greg Lara ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- This e-mail message may contain privileged, confidential and/or proprietary information intended only for the person(s) named. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, and any attachments, and notify the sender by return e-mail. 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Microsoft Licensing Product Use Rights, the official Microsoft document that defines these items, says, and I quote: Client Access License ("CAL") Requirements In addition to the license for the Server Software, you must acquire an Exchange Server 2003 CAL or Core CAL for each individual person ("User") or device that accesses or uses the Server Software. Access or use of the Server Software means access, whether directly or through a "multiplexing service" which is defined as a software application or service accessing or using the Server Software at the request of or on behalf of a User or device. Quote complete. The user who is being forwarded to neither accesses nor uses the Server Software. -----Original Message----- From: John Oligario [mailto:joligario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:11 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: forwarding emails and licensing http://www.MSExchange.org/ The proper way of looking at this is not: they are not really using Exchange other than as a forwarding engine. But: they are using Exchange other than as a forwarding engine. Which means they need a CAL -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:01 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: forwarding emails and licensing http://www.MSExchange.org/ Well, I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation of the licensing, but that aside, you can do that with mail enabled contacts. -----Original Message----- From: A. M. Salim [mailto:msalim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:57 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] forwarding emails and licensing http://www.MSExchange.org/ Hi all, I have a client who has about 20 real mailboxes, and then they have about 80 users who won't have email boxes, just forwards to an external email like their personal AOL or a hotmail accounts. This is for a church. The only method I can see in Exchange requires me to install "real mail enabled accounts" for each one and then set each one to forward, but from a CAL (licensing) point of view, these 80 users would still have to pay for a CAL license even thought they are not really using Exchange other than as a forwarding engine. 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