RE: [exchange list] RE: MAC vs. Exchange 2000 SP 4

  • From: "Medeiros, Jose" <jmedeiros@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:15:30 -0700

Well there is a difference between your PC's and your MAC's. I am sure that the 
PC's have joined your domain and your users are authenticated to your domain 
upon logon. Where as the MAC's are only authenticated locally. Now if you want 
to test some thing, download the trial version of ADMITMAC from Thursby 
Software http://www.thursby.com/ and see if that resolves your issue. 

BTW: Are your DC's running AD 2003 in Native mode?

Jose

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-----Original Message-----
From: Hermano JS. Queiroz [mailto:hjsqueiroz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:21 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: [exchange list] RE: MAC vs. Exchange 2000 SP
4


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I thought about this before, but the weird thing is that another user has 
Eudora as client running on PC and it is working fine with POP3 and 
authetication set on the server (Same screen showed on the article).
Maybe I need to bring my mini MAC and see if changes something, testing 
different Vlan and machine maybe will give me another error message or solve 
this problem giving more clues, I don't know but this it is driving me nuts, 
because I already tested everything that was possible and looks like that I 
need to renew or disable some kind of authentication besides the one that you 
sent to me and see what happens...
        Thanks anyway! 

Hermano

-----Original Message-----
From: Medeiros, Jose [mailto:jmedeiros@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:11 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: [exchange list] RE: MAC vs. Exchange 2000 SP
4


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I am sorry that I can't send you a screen capture as I do not have any MAC's in 
my current environment, however each mail client has a menu to enable SMTP 
authentication on send. You can also turn this feature off on your Exchange 
server, however your server will then act as a mail relay so unless you have a 
Sendmail server or some type of server in front of your Exchange servers that 
talks to the outside world this is probably not a good idea. If you decide to 
do so for troubleshooting purposes take a look at this link.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/EXBPA/616ab191-c5c1-49ab-9262-6e850e14e678.mspx

Jose

-----Original Message-----
From: Hermano JS. Queiroz [mailto:hjsqueiroz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:57 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: [exchange list] RE: MAC vs. Exchange 2000 SP
4


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        Yes! All machines are connected to the network and the ports 
(80,110,143) are ok and maybe others too. Is there any     authentication level 
that I need to take a look on the Exchange server or setting that needs to be 
done?
        Thanks, 

Hermano 


-----Original Message-----
From: Medeiros, Jose [mailto:jmedeiros@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:45 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: MAC vs Exchange 2000 SP 4


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Hi Hermano,

If you can't even telenet to the smtp port on the server then my guess is that 
you have a network problem. Is this happenuing on all your Remote MAC clients? 
Can your MAC clients on your internal LAN connect?  How is your firewall 
configured are you allowing PORT 110 and 143 incoming? 

Jose 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hermano JS. Queiroz [mailto:hjsqueiroz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:27 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: MAC vs Exchange 2000 SP 4


http://www.MSExchange.org/

I also tried in different situation like POP and IMAP, I believe that one it is 
working with Entourage using IMAP, but she it out of control with her folder 
space and I need to cut that, but the others that are trying to use POP it is 
the one that isn't working specialy sending messages.
Hi Jose, 

        First of all, thanks for your replies! Well, maybe I'm wrong, but I 
tested reverse DNS and different ways and using different tools and it is 
working fine answering my requests, but when I use Telnet to test the 25 port 
it is the problem with timeout and it's working with PC's fine.
        For those non domain members, is there any particular settings or 
service that I need to checked? The reason that I'm, this question it is 
because was working fine before and the only thing that might happened could be 
the latest patches applied related with security issues from Microsoft.
        All PC's are autenthicated when we are setting them for the first time, 
but MAC's we have not done anything with it.
        I assume that Entourage it is the last version but all MAC are running 
Tiger OS.
        Thanks again,

Hermano
        

Thanks, 

Hermano 

-----Original Message-----
From: Medeiros, Jose [mailto:jmedeiros@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:27 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: MAC vs Exchange 2000 SP 4


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Oh.. one more thing the Tech at the Apple store is correct you do have to 
enable SMTP based authentication to send on the mail client ( That is the 
default setting with Exchange 2000 and 2003 ). But that would be required  with 
all Mac and PC based clients that are non domain members and are not using 
Outlook in MAPI mode.

Jose

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-----Original Message-----
From: Medeiros, Jose 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:06 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: MAC vs Exchange 2000 SP 4


http://www.MSExchange.org/

This is just a guess but it sounds like your having an issue with reverse DNS 
lookups. I have used MAC OS 9-10.3 with an Exchange 2000 and 2003 server and 
have not had the issues that you are having. I am also assuming that your using 
POP or IMAP on the MAC clients. If your using MAPI in Entourage what version 
are you running? 


Jose
-----Original Message-----
From: Hermano JS. Queiroz [mailto:hjsqueiroz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:42 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] MAC vs Exchange 2000 SP 4


http://www.MSExchange.org/

Hi Everyone, 

    I'm dealing with a weird situation involving some Mac units using Entourage 
or even Mail 1.3.9 as client and I got different messages all the time. All 
three machines are behind the firewall as well as our Exchange server, so it is 
using the same range of private IP address 10.X.X.X . For some unknown reason 
when I telnet the Exchange Server using these MAC, I got timeout message, but 
using PC it is ok and also we do have other Eudora Client (PC) and it is 
working fine, only with MAC.
    The messages are:

    1- The attempt to read data from the server "10.x.x.x." failed. Mail 1.3.9 
V (619)
    2- Finger Connection Refused
    3- Connection Closed by Foreign Host
    4- Error - This message could not be delivered and will remain in your 
outbox until it can be delivered
        + Ok Microsoft Exchange 2000 POP Server Version 6.0.6603.0 (<server 
name>) Ready!

    Any clue, thoughts, advises or whatever will be really appreciated!

    PS. All message related above I already tried to found some reasons, but 
Microsoft website and others known forums doesn't give me an specific clue.
    
    Someone from an Apple store was saying that the machine needs to be 
authenticated on the server, and I'm not sure if I need to have any appletalk 
plug-in or any service from exchange needs to be active, because was working 
before and suddenly start to quit one by one.
    Thanks again!

Hermano
        


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