RE: Spider Programs
- From: "Mulnick, Al" <Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'[ExchangeList]'" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:19:17 -0400
No, it's not fishy. I've seen several that do similar and are legit.
That helps clarify the situation Amy.
I am not aware of anything on the planet that can validate a SMTP message
prior to sending it (for external communications of course). That's because
of the way SMTP works. However, it is very inefficient to send a second
message a recipient that can't accept the message for non-transient reasons
(5.x.x codes).
To me, that means you really want to send all of the messages but record the
statistics so you can have the bad addresses removed from future mailings.
When I was a consultant, I saw products such as BoldFish
http://www.siebel.com/email-marketing/software-solutions.shtm do this sort
of thing, but more for campaign management.
I think regardless of what you do, setup your domains and architecture
carefully. The last time I saw this, it was several million a day in
quantity and could have easily squashed the regular mail infrastructure for
the company in terms of network, firewall, anti-spam, etc. Architecting for
this to work differently would be a great idea.
You may also want to consider using the badmail settings of Exchange 2003
SP1 and or the badmail script available on Microsoft's website to either
prevent the badmail from collecting or to remove it on a regular basis to a
machine where you can parse it decide what to do with the email addresses.
Feel free to contact me offline if I can be of any help.
Al
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dufoe [mailto:dufoem@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:06 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Spider Programs
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Sounds fishy to me...
500,000 new clients per month....
-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Kohler [mailto:akohler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:59 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Spider Programs
http://www.MSExchange.org/
Not a spammer. We are a online stock trading company. We get over 500,000
new clients a month. We are getting killed with badmail. We need to buy or
develop software that goes out and verifies that an email address is valid.
This way we can keep our distribution list under control. Does that help?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:53 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Spider Programs
http://www.MSExchange.org/
Can you define that type of program for us? I suspect we're talking about
different things here.
To me, a spider program is one that crawls a website (or several) and looks
for broken links. What you're looking for is a mass-mailing program *I
think*. One that can help you track NDR's and remove those from the list
later. Preferrably one that does self-service opt-in functionality because
you're not a spammer, right?
More information would be helpful.
-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Kohler [mailto:akohler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:23 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Spider Programs
http://www.MSExchange.org/
Hello all,
I am working for company that has about 1,000,000 external clients that we
sand mass emails. We are considering implementing a Spider program to help
cut down NDR's. Does anyone know of any good 3rd party solutions?
Thanks
amy
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