You're right that scam isn't really the right term, since in order to run a good scam, you should be making some money from it. There's no sense in going over the entire "to RBL or not to RBL" conversation, since its been done to death. In concept, they could be a good idea. However, in practice, I've found that most of them fail to provide a responsible service and they don't take responsibility for damages they might inflict by the false positives and they fail to perform due diligence in informing the alleged "non-compliant" individual of the problem before BLing them. YMMV, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA Firewalls ________________________________ From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:28 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted http://www.MSExchange.org/ I think that might have been valid a few years ago. Many are approachable and reputable. Now it depends on whether the RBL fits your enterprise. That may only be determined by trial and error, however. To suggest they are all scams is just silly. But it is only one tool. ________________________________ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:MBlackstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:01 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted http://www.MSExchange.org/ I don't know about the scams part, but I agree. Don't use them. I'm not placing control of my email in the hands of vigilantes. There are much better technologies available that give you control over what mail you receive. ________________________________ From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:39 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted http://www.MSExchange.org/ Hey Bruce, Fact is that all RBLs are scams. Don't use them. There is much better technology out there to help you in your war against spam. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Bruce J. Rose [mailto:brose@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:16 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted http://www.MSExchange.org/ Thanks for the info. I have checked for open relay and my mail server does not allow relay. I found a internal fax server that was infected with backdoor and hacktools and clean it up it may have been relaying via being on the inside of the network. I do not think I am spamming now, I have turned on message tracking to manually check. After looking up info on Blars it looks like this guy is not reliable and does not work and play well with others in other words he might even be a scam I'm am not sure yet. He is the only one to blacklist my server. I am still in the process of learning the nuts and bolts of spaming; I will report back to the list the knowledge I acquire on this problem. I am also installing MS IMF. Thanks Bruce Rose ________________________________ From: Mike Dufoe [mailto:dufoem@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:03 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Server blacklisted http://www.MSExchange.org/ Check this out Bruce... http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=echosat.com ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Exchange Newsletters: http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp ------------------------------------------------------ Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: http://www.techgenix.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this MSEXchange.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx