For the Love of GOD!! Matt Neuherz IS Supervisor MCSE MCSA Tigerpoly Manufacturing, Inc. 614-871-0045 614-778-0506(cell) -----Original Message----- From: John Oligario [mailto:joligario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 3:31 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive http://www.MSExchange.org/ Hmmmm, I am thinking this has been round and round, so how about a truce? No one wins in situations like this. -----Original Message----- From: Jared Johnson [mailto:jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 3:24 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive http://www.MSExchange.org/ --- "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > LOL > > I went and looked up Sarbane-Oxley act and guess what, it is aimed at > financial companies more or less. (That is why the name was vaguely > familiar; it requires e-mail archiving and searching and copies within > a short amount of time.) It is not a computer or network security > document, nor is it for companies in general. If you are in the > financials sector, or have clients who are, then it may apply to you. > > My understanding of the Sarbane-Oxley act is that it has a general > purpose of preserving data in the financial industry and forcing > accountability. > Now, from a logical common sense standpoint, where does locking a > server come in to play in forcing accountability and preserving data? > > Now, I have not taken the time to read the hundreds of pages in it, > but even if it said in there that you must keep your servers and > workstation locked and not logged out, I could care less. Like I said > before, who is going to blindly follow what the government says, when > they do not know what they are talking about a majority of the time. > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Fugatt [mailto:mark@xxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:24 AM > > To: [ExchangeList] > > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to > mapped drive > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > Yes, I would like you to provide me with one link > that mentions that > locking > > is more secure than logging out. > > > > What was the very first Windows 2000 admin book > ever written?, and I will > see > > if I can find reference to it in there. > > > > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:14:21 -0700 (PDT), Jared > Johnson wrote > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > > > Read the posts again. Do your search on dogpile, > read > > > your beginning admin books. The proof is > everywhere. > > > It's just plain common sense. > > > > > > You really want ME to do your research FOR YOU? > Am I > > > your personal secretary dog? Dont' think so. > Read the > > > very first Windows 2000 admin book ever written, > and > > > you'll see. Basics my friend. > > > > > > --- "Michael B. Smith" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > > > > > Have you yet answered ANYONE as to why? > > > > > > > > Or provided a reference? Either Microsoft or > FIPS? > > > > Or anything else for > > > > that matter? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jared Johnson > [mailto:jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx] > > > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:58 AM > > > > To: [ExchangeList] > > > > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling > NTBackup to > > > > mapped drive > > > > > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > > > > > We do the same. Until some provides written > > > > > documentation from > > > > > Microsoft or a security company technically > > > > endorsed by Microsoft, I > > > > > will continue to Log off my servers when I > am > > > > finished my task.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > All beginning admins do. It's not until you're > in > > > > the big leagues that > > > > you realize why you should lock your boxes. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Danny <nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 09:50:17 +0100, Duke > > > > <duke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Morning, Afternoon, Evenin All. > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, Duke and all. > > > > > > > > > > > Has Danny's original question been > answered? > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure, as I have had several > different > > > > responses. My goal is > > > > > to not have anyone logged in, and two backup > jobs > > > > to run in the > > > > > background. Both jobs will save the backup > to a > > > > remote Windows 2000 > > > > > server. Job #1 will backup the Information > Store, > > > > Job #2 will backup > > > > > the System State. > > > > > > > > > > > Forgetting the rhetorics, Danny have you > gotten > > > > > the solution to the problem? > > > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > > > > > > Locking or logging out depends very much > on the > > > > > environment within which > > > > > > you are operating. Here, we mostly lock > when > > > > > running a task and log out > > > > > > otherwise. There is no one clear right > way. > > > > > > > > > > We do the same. Until some provides written > > > > documentation from > > > > > Microsoft or a security company technically > > > > endorsed by Microsoft, I > > > > > will continue to Log off my servers when I > am > > > > finished my task. > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > > > ...D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > List Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist > > > > > Exchange Newsletters: > > > > > > http://www.msexchange.org/pages/newsletter.asp > > > > > Exchange FAQ: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.msexchange.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > > > > > World of Windows Networking: > > > > > http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software > > > > > Directory: > > > > > http://www.serverfiles.com > > > > > No.1 ISA Server Resource Site: > > > > > http://www.isaserver.org > > > > > Windows Security Resource Site: > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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