Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

  • From: "John Oligario" <joligario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ExchangeList]'" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 15:30:39 -0400

Hmmmm, I am thinking this has been round and round, so how about a truce?
No one wins in situations like this. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jared Johnson [mailto:jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 3:24 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

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--- "John Tolmachoff (Lists)"
<johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> http://www.MSExchange.org/
> 
> LOL
> 
> I went and looked up Sarbane-Oxley act and guess what, it is aimed at 
> financial companies more or less. (That is why the name was vaguely 
> familiar; it requires e-mail archiving and searching and copies within 
> a short amount of time.) It is not a computer or network security 
> document, nor is it for companies in general. If you are in the 
> financials sector, or have clients who are, then it may apply to you.
> 
> My understanding of the Sarbane-Oxley act is that it has a general 
> purpose of preserving data in the financial industry and forcing 
> accountability.
> Now, from a logical common sense standpoint, where does locking a 
> server come in to play in forcing accountability and preserving data?
> 
> Now, I have not taken the time to read the hundreds of pages in it, 
> but even if it said in there that you must keep your servers and 
> workstation locked and not logged out, I could care less. Like I said 
> before, who is going to blindly follow what the government says, when 
> they do not know what they are talking about a majority of the time.
> 
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Fugatt [mailto:mark@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:24 AM
> > To: [ExchangeList]
> > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to
> mapped drive
> > 
> > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > 
> > Yes, I would like you to provide me with one link
> that mentions that
> locking
> > is more secure than logging out.
> > 
> > What was the very first Windows 2000 admin book
> ever written?, and I will
> see
> > if I can find reference to it in there.
> > 
> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:14:21 -0700 (PDT), Jared
> Johnson wrote
> > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > >
> > > Read the posts again. Do your search on dogpile,
> read
> > > your beginning admin books. The proof is
> everywhere.
> > > It's just plain common sense.
> > >
> > > You really want ME to do your research FOR YOU?
> Am I
> > > your personal secretary dog? Dont' think so.
> Read the
> > > very first Windows 2000 admin book ever written,
> and
> > > you'll see. Basics my friend.
> > >
> > > --- "Michael B. Smith" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > >
> > > > Have you yet answered ANYONE as to why?
> > > >
> > > > Or provided a reference? Either Microsoft or
> FIPS?
> > > > Or anything else for
> > > > that matter?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jared Johnson
> [mailto:jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:58 AM
> > > > To: [ExchangeList]
> > > > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling
> NTBackup to
> > > > mapped drive
> > > >
> > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > >
> > > > We do the same. Until some provides written
> > > > > documentation from
> > > > > Microsoft or a security company technically
> > > > endorsed by Microsoft, I
> > > > > will continue to Log off my servers when I
> am
> > > > finished my task.>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All beginning admins do. It's not until you're
> in
> > > > the big leagues that
> > > > you realize why you should lock your boxes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Danny <nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 09:50:17 +0100, Duke
> > > > <duke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Morning, Afternoon, Evenin All.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good morning, Duke and all.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Has Danny's original question been
> answered?
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure, as I have had several
> different
> > > > responses. My goal is
> > > > > to not have anyone logged in, and two backup
> jobs
> > > > to run in the
> > > > > background. Both jobs will save the backup
> to a
> > > > remote Windows 2000
> > > > > server. Job #1 will backup the Information
> Store,
> > > > Job #2 will backup
> > > > > the System State.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Forgetting the rhetorics, Danny have you
> gotten
> > > > > the solution to the problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > No.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Locking or logging out depends very much
> on the
> > > > > environment within which
> > > > > > you are operating. Here, we mostly lock
> when
> > > > > running a task and log out
> > > > > > otherwise. There is no one clear right
> way.
> > > > >
> > > > > We do the same. Until some provides written
> > > > documentation from
> > > > > Microsoft or a security company technically
> > > > endorsed by Microsoft, I
> > > > > will continue to Log off my servers when I
> am
> > > > finished my task.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > ...D
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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