Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

  • From: "Maglinger, Paul" <PMAGLINGER@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ExchangeList]'" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 12:14:42 -0500

Well, publicly owned companies have to "blindly follow the government" with
Sarbanes or risk getting nailed by an audit.  It is listed as a security
objective and I have to do it.  I also haven't read the entire document, but
I can only presume that it involves preventing unauthorized users  from
accessing or deleting data from a server and/or workstation (and thus
"preserving data" and "forcing accountability" through the use of audit
logs).  Again, I didn't make the rules.

As for this thread, I say "whatever floats your boat".  If you are not held
to certain security requirements, do whatever security measures you are
comfortable with.  You know your environment better than any body else...
right?

-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:46
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive


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LOL

I went and looked up Sarbane-Oxley act and guess what, it is aimed at
financial companies more or less. (That is why the name was vaguely
familiar; it requires e-mail archiving and searching and copies within a
short amount of time.) It is not a computer or network security document,
nor is it for companies in general. If you are in the financials sector, or
have clients who are, then it may apply to you.

My understanding of the Sarbane-Oxley act is that it has a general purpose
of preserving data in the financial industry and forcing accountability.
Now, from a logical common sense standpoint, where does locking a server
come in to play in forcing accountability and preserving data?

Now, I have not taken the time to read the hundreds of pages in it, but even
if it said in there that you must keep your servers and workstation locked
and not logged out, I could care less. Like I said before, who is going to
blindly follow what the government says, when they do not know what they are
talking about a majority of the time. 

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Fugatt [mailto:mark@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:24 AM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive
> 
> http://www.MSExchange.org/
> 
> Yes, I would like you to provide me with one link that mentions that
locking
> is more secure than logging out.
> 
> What was the very first Windows 2000 admin book ever written?, and I will
see
> if I can find reference to it in there.
> 
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:14:21 -0700 (PDT), Jared Johnson wrote
> > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> >
> > Read the posts again. Do your search on dogpile, read
> > your beginning admin books. The proof is everywhere.
> > It's just plain common sense.
> >
> > You really want ME to do your research FOR YOU? Am I
> > your personal secretary dog? Dont' think so. Read the
> > very first Windows 2000 admin book ever written, and
> > you'll see. Basics my friend.
> >
> > --- "Michael B. Smith" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > >
> > > Have you yet answered ANYONE as to why?
> > >
> > > Or provided a reference? Either Microsoft or FIPS?
> > > Or anything else for
> > > that matter?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jared Johnson [mailto:jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:58 AM
> > > To: [ExchangeList]
> > > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to
> > > mapped drive
> > >
> > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > >
> > > We do the same. Until some provides written
> > > > documentation from
> > > > Microsoft or a security company technically
> > > endorsed by Microsoft, I
> > > > will continue to Log off my servers when I am
> > > finished my task.>>
> > >
> > >
> > > All beginning admins do. It's not until you're in
> > > the big leagues that
> > > you realize why you should lock your boxes.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Danny <nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 09:50:17 +0100, Duke
> > > <duke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > Morning, Afternoon, Evenin All.
> > > >
> > > > Good morning, Duke and all.
> > > >
> > > > > Has Danny's original question been answered?
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure, as I have had several different
> > > responses. My goal is
> > > > to not have anyone logged in, and two backup jobs
> > > to run in the
> > > > background. Both jobs will save the backup to a
> > > remote Windows 2000
> > > > server. Job #1 will backup the Information Store,
> > > Job #2 will backup
> > > > the System State.
> > > >
> > > > > Forgetting the rhetorics, Danny have you gotten
> > > > the solution to the problem?
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > > >
> > > > > Locking or logging out depends very much on the
> > > > environment within which
> > > > > you are operating. Here, we mostly lock when
> > > > running a task and log out
> > > > > otherwise. There is no one clear right way.
> > > >
> > > > We do the same. Until some provides written
> > > documentation from
> > > > Microsoft or a security company technically
> > > endorsed by Microsoft, I
> > > > will continue to Log off my servers when I am
> > > finished my task.
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards,
> > > >
> > > > ...D
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