Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

  • From: "Jared Johnson" <jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ExchangeList]'" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 18:49:06 -0400

Another beginner with a fragile ego eh? ALL of this proof, and you're STILL
balking? My gosh man, GET A LIFE (and a shrink). 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Oligario [mailto:joligario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:47 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

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He is grasping at straws is why he changes 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:43 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

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and as it has just occurred to me....was the conversation not about locking
the computer via the ctl alt del....not physically??...you're changing the
ground rules here 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jared Johnson [mailto:jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:25 PM
To: Exchange Weblist
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

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How in the WORLD can you get to my CD drives or floppy drives? You mean to
tell me your servers don't have a case on them that lock??? ALL of mine do.
The fact that yours do not, speaks for itself. You can't even get to the
plugs, because, again, like all servers should be, they are beneath the
locked rack, and the rack is lock to the floor so it can't move.

Again, you've just spoken and said it out loud how insecure your servers
really are.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:16 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

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OK Jared...

Say I'm in your secure server room....beside your secure server, which
you've secured by logging on and locking.

I put a sysinternals erd commander cd in your cd tray and then pull the
power on your server...it goes down, I plug it back in, server starts, erd
commander runs, I reset the admin account that it finds, or create a new
one, whichever, i then reboot, take out the erd cd and it boots to the login
screen...I can now logon. Had to do it many times because of forgotten admin
passwords on NT, 200 and 2003.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Jared Johnson [mailto:jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:58 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

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LOL. Right. And I have some land in the Sierra I'd like to sell you. 

How about the truth: 

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6329-1058522.html

http://www.microsoft.com/smallbusiness/gtm/securityguidance/articles/ste
p_5_
use_strong_passwords.mspx (read, "But all too often...")

http://labmice.techtarget.com/articles/securingwin2000.htm (look at
"password protect your..." which mentions ALL SERVERS.)

http://www.cpc.unc.edu/projects/addhealth/data/restricteduse/security/wi
n200
0server (look at #2)

Answer me this: Why would microsoft give the ability to lock all their
server screens?? Because they don't want you to USE IT!? Again, this is
common sense.

LOL Whew, sorry, I just blew a few junks. 

Hey my weak newbie, if your incredibly fragile ego can't take being wrong,
that's not my deal. SEE A SHRINK. 

TALK ABOUT DENIAL

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Duemling [mailto:kduemling@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 5:46 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive

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Trying to add some documented references to the two sides of this issue I
have found the following statement in a Microsoft Press book.

-----------------------------------------

Book: Microsoft Windows Security for Windows XP and Windows 2000 Inside Out
Publisher: Microsoft Press
Copyright: 2003
ISBN: 0-7356-1632-9

Pages: 111-112

Background: Statement made in reference to using Syskey to add an additional
layer of login protection for Windows based systems.

Statement:

"Caution: Bear in mind that this added startup requirement provides no
additional protection once the computer is up and running.  That is, if an
attacker can reach your unattended computer while an administrator account
is logged on, your passwords can be stolen.  An attacker can steal the LSASS
cache of hashed passwords and copy it to a floppy disk in seconds.  Again,
it comes down to physical security:  Unless your computer is always guarded
by a person or a locked door, be sure to log off when you leave the computer
and ensure that all user accounts are password protected."

-----------------------------------------

This article might be useful for those locking their servers.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000pro/tips/loccon.
mspx


Keith Duemling
 
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