my advise: - buildout network redundancy - just consider it, even if it's a much cheaper backup circuit. use bgp multihoming to advertise your public ip blocks. otherwise investing in a complex interior would be moot if you lost local loop - connectivity to your upstream provider. perhaps it's a data center and you have some additonal confidence in the local side. - load-balancing - we implement and maintain most of the commercial loadbalancers, windows NLB and also some open source. use windows NLB if all you need to do is basic 2 system and smtp. it's pretty easy to use. if you have more advanced application needs, avialablity/performance awareness and larger number of systems then consider a dedicated hardware solution. We have recntly started doing more work with coyote point LBs. They are much cheaper than F5 or netscalar (but without many of the bells and wistles, more advanced technologies). They make the jump from server based to central based a little more rational, again, depending on your needs. hit me off-line if you'd like to chat more re the network and LB thoughts. byron Byron Kennedy Principal kennedytechnologygroup www.kennedytechgroup.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Wall To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: SMTP Load Balancer We used to use the BigIP devices as well, but since NLB (network load balancing) was introduced for free with Windows 2003, we use that as our solution and no longer use the expensive BigIP devices. I would recommend looking into that. Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike French Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:52 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] SMTP Load Balancer Kinda off topic? But I have to ask: Scenario: Multiple Firewalls (5) on the perimeter Single Large pipe to the INET We need to load balance SMTP traffic to the Perimeter firewalls (SMTP is the only concern), if firewall 1 is saturated then go to firewall 2 and so on. My question is, since I have little experience with load balancers, anyone have a short list of vendors that they have had good luck with that provides this type of load balancing? I would imagine this scenario would be pretty simple. F5 BIG-IP for instance? Or is that over kill? Just looking to narrow down a search without having to "Drink the Kool-aid" from vendor contacts.. Mike French Acclaim Networks 754 Port America Place Suite 150 Grapevine, TX 76051 (888) 327-5647 (817) 488-1030 x104 FAX (817) 488-1103 Mike.French@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.acclaimnetworks.com