RES: RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC environment

  • From: "Tiago de Aviz" <Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:51:52 -0200

That's ok Andrew, but if you get into trouble and you need to call PSS, they'll 
tell you to first remove exchange from the VM. 

Of course VMWare, Inc. will advertise that you can run nuclear bomb 
calculations inside VMware, but the software's manufacturer is the one who 
chooses whether they will or not support applications inside VMware.

Tiago de Aviz

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www.softsell.com.br

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-----Mensagem original-----
De: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 22 de dezembro de 2004 11:39
Para: [ExchangeList]
Assunto: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Here is a link of VMware's site of a company who uses VMware to run Exchange, 
and other applications which I am sure most of you are aware of. 

http://www.vmware.com/pdf/stoll.pdf

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:28 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

http://www.MSExchange.org/

I don't know about MOC, but the KB article that defines the lack of support in 
VM's is:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320220 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:27 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Hi Steve, 

Well tell that Bill Gates. I have seen Exchange 2003 running on GSX Server at 
many places. Including my own box and EX doesn't know if it's running in the VM 
world or the real world. 

Also I would like you point out in the Microsoft Official curriculum for 
Exchange 2000/2003 were it clearly says "Exchange is not supported on Virtual 
Machines".

Regards,
Andrew




-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:20 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Exchange is NOT supported on Virtual Machines, including Microsoft's.

Steve 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:27 AM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: New Exchange 2003 server in existing AD/DC 
environment

http://www.MSExchange.org/

Mohammed method is not the correct one. You can do it if you want but you will 
only be sorry down the road. There are two methods which work best and they are:

1. depending on how many users are going to have, I think you said already 350 
you can always have your client buy a monster machine, dual P4 XEON's 3.0Ghz 
1Meg or higher, 4GB of RAM or more, and a very nice SCSI RAD system, not to 
mention your NIC. 

You would install Windows 2003 Standard or Enterprise (if standard doesn't 
manage your hardware needs) server first then:

1. install all the crucial windows updates 2. install VMware GSX Server (you 
could also use ESX Server with the above hardware) 3. setup a VM session for 
Win2k3 Standard with the settings you need make it AD (DC) 4. install all the 
crucial windows updates 5. run dcpromo and convert the server running in a VM 
session to AD (DC).

Create a new VM session for your Exchange and do the following:

1. install all the crucial windows updates 2. install VMware GSX Server (you 
could also use ESX Server with the above hardware) 3. setup a VM session for 
Win2k3 Standard with the settings you need make it EX 4. install all the 
crucial windows updates 5. join the server to the AD (DC) like you join your 
workstations.

Take the Exchange CD and pop it in the CDROM drive then on your AD (DC) run the 
following commands. 

1. setup /forestprep
2. setup /domainprep

On your EX VM session run Setup off the same CD and your done. The thing to 
remember is that you MUST run "update /forestprep" and "update /domainprep" on 
the AD (DC) with Exchange SP1 before installing it on your EX machine.

As for how much resources to give your AD and EX VM machines. For offices that 
are 5 to 10 users you can setup AD on 256MB RAM, and 4GB hard drive, EX on 
512MB RAM, and 4GB hard drive.


The other method is to have two physical machines, one for AD the other for EX, 
it will probably cost you more in the end to buy two servers than it would to 
buy one monster server and run GSX or ESX from VMware on it.

Regards,
Andrew


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