Re: Question

  • From: "Tony Anderson" <tandersn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:51:13 -0700

The 'timesheets' example was merely that, an example of what I wanted to do.

We have lots of users, and a lot of them want to have aliases. We have some
people who have changed there names legally, and changed there account name
to reflect this. They still, however, want there old name listed in case
someone doesn't know they changed there name. It seems like way too much
overhead to create a new account for every user that simply wants an alias,
especially since they could want more than one.

I understand that creating a new user and forwarding the mail would be fine
in a 'one-time' case. This isn't really a one time thing though, it is lots
of users and it is on-going. Being a college, we have a very high turn
around for users.

To make matters more complicated, we have automated all account creations
via scripts. These scripts are generated by a process that we run on a unix
machine where we have a master database of user accounts (not passwords)
that contains information on a person. What account, when it will expire
(some are students remember, so it expirec 2 years after it is created).
What kind of accounts they get (instructional or research). Then there is
billing done to the correct budget (research or instructional) based on the
number of accounts contained in the master database. This process that we
have deletes accounts out of the active directory (and all other systems)
when they expire, and keeps everything in sync. So to do what you say, is a
lot more complicated than that. We would have to have a new account line in
our database, which would cause incorrect statistics to be reported to the
financiers.

Let me just end by saying, I am not the bean counter, and the bean counting
cannot be changed, no matter how much it complicates things for me.

The bottom line is, there should be a 'delivery options' and 'forwarding' on
a contact, or a way to for a user to have multiple displayed identies in the
GAL.

Tony


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Mulholland" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:36 PM
Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Question


> http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
> Why cant you create a user "timesheets"  and then forward all mail to
> bobroberts
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Anderson [mailto:tandersn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 12:23 PM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Question
>
> http://www.MSExchange.org/
>
> There are no 'delivery options' for contacts. (which is what I was
> asking about). There *should* be though, that would make everything very
> easy.
>
> The problem is that in *nix this is very easy, and we do it all the
> time.
> You just make an alias, and then add an entry into the LDAP database.
> Exchange Servers should have the same functionality.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Mulholland" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:23 PM
> Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Question
>
>
> > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > In AD user properties, Go to Exchange General tab and Delivery options
> > and enter the forwarding address, put id use the public folder
> scenario
> > if it was me though.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Anderson [mailto:tandersn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:48 AM
> > To: [ExchangeList]
> > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Question
> >
> > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> >
> > I don't see a forward option for a contact? I only see a forward
> option
> > for the users.
> >
> > The 'make another user' doesn't really work for me, not because of
> > licensing, but because of overhead. We actually allow all our students
> > and faculty to have aliases if they want, so it's not just a singular
> > incident.
> > The scenario I laid out was just to get my point across.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:43 PM
> > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Question
> >
> >
> > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > >
> > > Regular user needs an Exchange license. Wouldn't create a contact
> > > timesheets@xxxxxxxxxx, and list the forwarding address in that
> contact
> > as
> > > bob@xxxxxxxxxx?
> > >
> > > John Tolmachoff
> > > Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> > > eServices For You
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jared Johnson [mailto:jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:29 PM
> > > > To: [ExchangeList]
> > > > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Question
> > > >
> > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > >
> > > > create a regular user called: Time Sheet, and simply
> > > > forward Time Sheet email to Bob Roberts.
> > > >
> > > > --- Tony Anderson <tandersn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's say you have a person in your organization
> > > > > named "Bob Roberts". He has
> > > > > an exchange account, and shows up in the GAL as "Bob
> > > > > Roberts". Now, let's
> > > > > say that Bob is responsible for looking over
> > > > > everyone's time sheets, so you
> > > > > also want an entry in the GAL for "Time Sheets"
> > > > > which goes to Bob.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you add TimeSheets@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to his Proxy
> > > > > Email Addresses, you
> > > > > won't see it in the GAL. If you create a contact
> > > > > with a display name of
> > > > > "Time Sheets", it won't let you enter in Bob's email
> > > > > because you will get an
> > > > > error: c10312e7 "This email address already exists
> > > > > in the organization".
> > > > >
> > > > > So what is the correct way to handle this situation?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony Anderson
> > > > > Computer Science & Engineering, UW
> > > > > Windows Systems Architect
> > > > >
> > > > >
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