RE: One more try...
- From: "Tim Jordan" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ExchangeList]" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:23:51 -0900
Okay, after I read the blog you posted I think I may have found my
misunderstanding. The X.400 is what the 2003 server created. I was
hoping that trying to create an X.400 address for the old domain
(because I did not see a way to create the X.500 address in AD) would
resolve the problem.
After reading what Ted had to say in his blog I realized that I must
actually create the X.500 address in Active Directory using an ldap
editing tool...
I think Steve may have already mentioned the legacyExchangeDN which I
did not pickup on because I could not "see it" in Active Directory.
So it looks like I need to peek under the hood!
-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 12:20 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...
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Might be a crossed wire here. You don't want to create a X.400 address
type. You want to create a X.500 address type. They're treated
differently in Exchange.
Is that what you did? Not that it'll matter in a few days, but curious.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:51 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...
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Thanks again. I have read the doc's you posted but I've been unable to
create an X.400 on the 2003 server that will accept mail based on the
X.500 address that was used in the former domain.
It's not critical - like you said it won't be a problem after 30 days...
-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:10 AM
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Importance: Low
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Update. Here's another nice explanation. It's the one I remembered
reading but couldn't remember where I'd seen it.
http://blogs.msdn.com/exchange/archive/2004/03/24/95451.aspx
-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:11 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...
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If it helps:
(from:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/Ex2k3DepGui
de/9
13a25eb-ce2b-4743-8f4b-9b62f53c8af9.mspx)
"GAL Synchronization creates a secondary X.500 proxy address for the
user who was moved so that old messages can be properly routed to the
user's new mailbox based on the legacyExchangeDN property.
For example, UserA sends mail to UserB, who is in the same organization.
Later, UserA is moved to a different organization. The mail originally
sent by UserA still specifies UserA's legacyExchangeDN property. GAL
Synchronization creates a contact for UserA in the old organization and
assigns an X.500 address with the old legacyExchangeDN property. This
allows UserB to reply to the old mail, which, in turn, is properly
routed to the TargetAddress property for UserA. If a mailbox is moved
many times, the list of secondary proxy addresses can potentially grow
large."
And for perspective:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.exchange.admin/brow
se_t
hread/thread/42a8412381d60dd3/b9ee7b40a226cc87?q=x.500+admt+site:www.mic
roso
ft.com&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3Dx.500+admt+site:www.microsoft.com%26hl%3Den
%26l
r%3D%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#b9ee7b40a226cc8
7
"If you are going to go to a new AD and a New Exchange Organization then
there are some other things you have to consider and the action plan
that I outlined will not work for you.
1) You will need to setup SMTP name space sharing between your Exchange
5.5 and Exchange 2k organizations if they are both going to have the
same SMTP address.
2) You will need to setup an interorg ADC. This will only create
contacts so you will need to manage each side of the organization
separately.
3) You will need to use exmerge to do the migrations of the mailbox
contents
over to the new org. Yes this will result in NDRs to all replies unless
you manually add in an x.500 address for each of the users as you move
them over
that matches their old x.500 address."
OR
More specific to your scenario (I know you didn't use the tools, but the
concepts were the same mostly).
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;818324
See the cause section.
Hopefully that helps you to build the X.500 address space for each of
these users. If you know their username, you should be able to build
the rest and put the addresses in there for each user object.
Just my $0.02 but it's been a long day...
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 6:25 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...
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Okay, Thank you all for your input. I at least have a better
understanding of the issue at hand. At this point I'm going to proceed
with caution on the users site. I have already configured a second
X.400 address for one employee and plan to test after hours.
Thanks again,
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:32 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...
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The old Organization is "COMPANY FOUNDATION" and the Site is "FIRST
ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP".
The new Organization is "EXCHANGE" and the Site is "COMPANY".
The first is an X.500 address. The second is an X.400. Try applying an
appropriate X.400 and see what happens. I don't know how lucky you will
be.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:26 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...
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I used OWA to a clients mbx and then pulled up and older email. Just by
moving the cursor over the recipients name I got this back:
/O=COMPANY FOUNDATION/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Tim
The new X.400 looks like this:
C=US;a= ;p=COMPANY;o=EXCHANGE;s=Jordan;g=Tim;
Not sure how this would translate. It looks like Exch 2000 used a
OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE and Exch 2003 is using just EXCHANGE.
Advice?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:Al.Mulnick@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:31 AM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...
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The X.500 is all you should need for this. I was trying to find the
blog entries about X.500 which gave a good description.
You have to manually create the X.500 for each user. You'd need a copy
of the GAL to know exactly, but if not too many you should be able to
look at a reply address and figure it out for the users.
E.g. x.500 addr.
/o=USA/OU=GOMEZ/cn=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=GOMEZ/CN=USERDIRNAME
Al
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:20 PM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...
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Al, Michael, Danny,
I can see creating an X.400 - don't see how X.500 would be created for a
users account. I'm looking at a current user now and the X.400 that is
created currently is really basic. I don't doubt that this is the
problem.
Is there a way to reconstruct an X.400 address to match the former
domains X.400 address? I can't easily reinstall the drives and fire up
the old config. Can I pull the required data off an email and create an
X.400 address.
Perhaps if I connect to a different client and see how their 2000 server
handles the X.400 entry and then try and duplicate - OR - I'm I playing
with fire here????
TJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:03 AM
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Subject: [exchangelist] RE: One more try...
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Didn't I reply to this?
There are migration tools that would have fixed this for you. Nothing
(that I know of) for free. Maybe ADMT v2.
You could try adding an additional X.400 and X.500 address for each user
that matches the old one. I think that has a fairly high probability of
working.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Jordan [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:43 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] One more try...
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Hello everyone,
I'm reposting this plea for suggestions...
Summary:
Installed a new Windows 2003 server w/ Exchange 2003 at a client
site. They were running W2K w/Exch 2K. I did not do an online
migration.
I replaced the original drives in the server and did a clean installing
changing the company.org to company.local for internal dns.
Problem:
Emails that were sent within the organization based on the
Global Address book prior to the new server will not deliver when users
try to reply to them now. Error is "message undeliverable..."
Solutions:
I went in and updated the email field on contacts that were
based on the former Global Address Book.
But I don't have a clue as how to easy the users pain of having to
always double check the email address prior to sending...
Did I over look a tool that would have allowed me to export the Global
Address book and then import it into the new Global Address book? Would
this have allowed the replies to emails prior to the new server?
Thanks for your input,
TJ
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